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sbaklava 10-25-2016 07:40 PM

newbie in need of advice
 
is this a place i might get some general advice on a longhood 911 restoration?

christiandk 10-25-2016 09:50 PM

What is the name of this forum?

Rick Brooklyn 10-26-2016 02:43 AM

Right forum (pelican) wrong subforum

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KNS 10-26-2016 03:38 AM

sbaklava.

Welcome to Pelican!

You'll find plenty of restoration info over on the technical forum.

matt930s 10-26-2016 04:09 AM

Start a thread here:

Porsche 911 Technical Forum - Pelican Parts Technical BBS

Also, there are specific sub-forums related to bodywork, engine etc...

MattR

sbaklava 10-26-2016 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christiandk (Post 9333933)
What is the name of this forum?

the name of the forum is Porsche Marketplace Discussion, and, guess what, i have a question about a Porsche i'm restoring and decisions i need to make that might effect it's position in the Marketplace and about which i'd like to have a Discussion.

but thanks all the same for the snark.

sbaklava 10-26-2016 06:41 AM

i don't have a technical question.

i'm restoring a numbers matching '68 911 SWT and had a question about upgrades—turbo tie rods, carrera chain tensioner, dual circuit brakes, ignition, fuel pump location, displacement/hp bump—and their impact on resale value. any thoughts?

thanks.

matt930s 10-26-2016 06:49 AM

Being completely original obviously brings the most value. You are narrowing your audience a bit with modifications, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Make sure all of your upgrades are reversible to stock if possible, there should be a negligible hit. Save all the original components.

Mattr

techweenie 10-26-2016 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbaklava (Post 9334204)
i don't have a technical question.

i'm restoring a numbers matching '68 911 SWT and had a question about upgrades—turbo tie rods, carrera chain tensioner, dual circuit brakes, ignition, fuel pump location, displacement/hp bump—and their impact on resale value. any thoughts?

thanks.

Modifications that are hard or impossible to spot, provide an advantage and are reversible should not make a negative impact. You are not creating a concours car, presumably, so don't sweat these details. For instance, I have seen and ridden in a 68 L that was modified to produce over 200HP on the dyno, and I will tell you it was (to me) worth a premium. I think the portion of the market that clutches its pearls over increased displacement/HP is far smaller than the part of the market that appreciates it. of course, this is all only relevant when you put your car on the market. In the meantime, you get the benefit.

My own opinion is against doing the pressure-fed tensioner upgrade. I prefer 930 tensioners with collars. You get the protection and avoid the non-stock look. But that's just me...

1979-930 10-26-2016 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbaklava (Post 9334204)
i don't have a technical question.

i'm restoring a numbers matching '68 911 SWT and had a question about upgrades—turbo tie rods, carrera chain tensioner, dual circuit brakes, ignition, fuel pump location, displacement/hp bump—and their impact on resale value. any thoughts?

thanks.

You should have lead with that ^^^ and the "Snark" would have been avoided.
Welcome to the Nuthouse. SmileWavy

I think the type of changes that are accepted also vary based on the condition, miles and originality of the car. If it's a very original sub 80K mile car with original paint the changes will affect the value. If its a high mileage car with one or more repaints it won't matter that much.

matt930s 10-26-2016 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by techweenie (Post 9334228)
Modifications that are hard or impossible to spot, provide an advantage and are reversible should not make a negative impact. You are not creating a concours car, presumably, so don't sweat these details. For instance, I have seen and ridden in a 68 L that was modified to produce over 200HP on the dyno, and I will tell you it was (to me) worth a premium. I think the portion of the market that clutches its pearls over increased displacement/HP is far smaller than the part of the market that appreciates it. of course, this is all only relevant when you put your car on the market. In the meantime, you get the benefit.

My own opinion is against doing the pressure-fed tensioner upgrade. I prefer 930 tensioners with collars. You get the protection and avoid the non-stock look. But that's just me...


what he said...

MattR

sbaklava 10-26-2016 08:34 AM

i've always intended to restore this car as a driver. it sat for ~30yrs after a blown engine so there are no service records, no books, no jack, no meaningful provenance, and these are the things that bring top dollar for a concours car. add'l time and money in rust repair—no surprise there—led me to wonder if i shouldn't go for originality. but the upgrades, and these are the only upgrades i'm considering, are for good reason:

turbo tie rods, durability
dual circuit brakes, safety
ignition, reliability
carrera chain tensioner, durability, though the 930 solution may be adequate

relocate fuel pump, reliability and performance
place it either in the newer location within the engine bay or move it up front. both stock locations, just not in '68

displacement/hp bump
because the engine sat unsealed for so long, one bank was seized and required some effort to pull it apart and some machining to prep it for reassembly. the suggestion is to rebuild as a 2.2L, w/ E cams, S p&c, minimal change in appearance. BIG change in performance.

and this is a straight 911 so it came from the factory with weber carbs and ventilated discs.

sbaklava 10-26-2016 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1979-930 (Post 9334298)
You should have lead with that ^^^ and the "Snark" would have been avoided.
Welcome to the Nuthouse. SmileWavy

I think the type of changes that are accepted also vary based on the condition, miles and originality of the car. If it's a very original sub 80K mile car with original paint the changes will affect the value. If its a high mileage car with one or more repaints it won't matter that much.

65k miles, but sat for ~30yrs. rusty end to end. months on a rotisserie. both front quarters, one wing window replaced.

Rawknees'Turbo 10-26-2016 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbaklava (Post 9334199)

but thanks all the same for the snark.

Snark is just Christian's way of expressing bro-love!

sbaklava 10-26-2016 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 9334465)
Snark is just Christian's way of expressing bro-love!

then we'll just have to hug it out.

brianvb 10-26-2016 11:02 AM

I have a car just like yours. We serviced the engine and uprgraded the timing chain to hydraulic dampers. It cost close several k cdn$ . I felt it was an important upgrade. Email me and we can discuss your 68. Mine is an S Targa, no SW. I wish I had the SW. Brianvb@me.com

Macroni 10-26-2016 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianvb (Post 9334563)
Mine is an S Targa, no SW. I wish I had the SW. Brianvb@me.com

Your is exceptional.........

Gaspassin 10-27-2016 04:08 PM

I Love Baklava


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