What's the most desirable 912?
 

I'm sure this will go south quickly. But I am curious what the 912 guys look for.
Are the older cars more desirable?
Is the long wheel base 69 the one?
Are there any differences that make one year better than all the others?

The most desireable 912s to 912 guys are the ones with the least power and the best fuel economy, as after all, that's what sports car motoring is all about, Deez!

912 Diss
 

Hey Scabby Knees,what would fall quicker from a cliff?Overweight Turbo Powaa from Texass or a light weight 4 cylinder.Fred

Freaky Fred, the 4-farter would not make it to a fallible height, so the contest would be over before it started!

Okay, I spent 3 years of weekends restoring a 1967 short wheel base sunroof coupe that I have known since I was twelve.

The car was ordered for the USA but delivered at the factory. The original owner ordered it in a optional color (Tangerine), with the aforementioned sunroof, tinted glass all around, full leather, seat headrests, NO radio, Fuch 4.5's, bumper horns, five speed, fog lights, Talbot mirror, Koni sports, wood steering wheel & Pirelli tires.

A proper motorcar.

Nope, it did not have a six cylinder but it gave him a month of German driving then years & years of USA use that I am sure went well. Now I have it with a 1720 P&C kit, Webers and an exhaust that makes it as quick as a non-modded heavier 2.0 911.

I park it next to my 930 & hot-rod 2.7 longhood and could not be happier.

To the OP ~ Find a solid SWB version & have the same enjoyment many of us owners do.

Most desireable 912 is the one I stupidly sold about ten years ago. 1965 5 gauge wooden trim painted dash rhd.

"it depends", & all the usual advice applies about buying old Porsches - physical condition trumps mechanical. I've owned a '66 & also driven a friend's '69 extensively. If I were wanting to build-up a personal special, I'd start w/ a swb. If I wanted the best stock example, I'd go w/ a '69, already restored to spec.

Def not a 69. The long wheel base kills it. Probably a painted dash 65 is the ultimate but having had 20 or so I'd say the best one is one that drives nice.

Stick with the earlier short wheel base 912s. The long wheel base 912s lack a certain something. Suggest you spend time getting "educated" at 912 BBS - Welcome to 912BBS. Lots of good stuff at that site. The earlier 912s are a blast to drive. They are lighter and the rear engine is about 150lbs lighter than the flat six. The engine also rests closer to the driver, better weight distribution.

The one I drove to pick-up breakfast for the fam with this morning; it was freezing here in Charleston, I had to wear long sleeves.
I'm loving it:

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Saw Ronnie (aka..raw knees, aka ronnies930...etc..)there:


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^^^

Phatt asked to take a pic with the front of my suit unzipped, butt he balked at the charge of admission!

PS - all jokes aside, what happened with the speaker area punch marks on your dash (holes look all over the place) - is that from sun warpage?

No îdea, bought it that way.

MattR

I've never driven a short wheelbase car. They seem to get negative reviews most of the time. So it's surprising that would be recommended.


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The swb 911s used to get bad reviews because the weight distribution.
A swb 912 doesn't have the same issues.

The SWB cars got bad reviews from magazine editors. Magazine editors historically don't know how to drive.

They put the weights in the frt bumper to help out magazine editors?

I recently read a post from John Walker saying that new dashes from Porsche Classic come with jacked up speaker holes like that - unbelievable considering the cost! I wonder if that dash top is one of those?

As a long time '12 owner, I'd agree with a painted dash car being the most desirable, but only from a rarity stand point. Won't drive any differently than any other SWB 912.

What did you sell it for?

The cast iron bumper weights were used on 911's only and helped when narrow bias ply tires are used on the car in cross winds on the highway. If you are not going to do that, then not necessary.
Most people remove them in todays cars for hot rodding.
SWB cars are magical, and the only way to go with a 912.
SWB 911's have the most 'Porsche handling' of any 911.

I do like the look of older interior with the wood steering wheel better. I want a long hood car. I really like classic body styles with bright trim, but I don't want to spend more than I paid for the 930 on one. If I bought a older 911 I would just modify it anyway. The 912 will be easier to leave stock.

My main goal will be to find one that does not need floor pans. Way too much labor. It would need to be a six figure car for that kind of work.

Who knows; I may end up building a long hood hot rod. I'm always searching for the next project two years before I finish what I'm working on now. It's a terrible disease.

The swb also have the virgin rear fenders without the flares of the long hoods.

AKA - they look like they need a couple-a-three cheeseburgers and a Big Gulp!

here's one of many discussions of the bumper-weights issue. I suggest "it's complicated"...
Corner weights early cars [Archive] - Early 911S Registry

ficke, humor too dry, my apologies for confusing anyone. I was not referring to the 912, but the blanket statement inferring Porsche made engineering & product decisions to placate magazine writers. heck, back then, a lot of those guys were even decent drivers (Jerry Titus, etc.).

to the OP, the wheelbase was extended by less than 2.5", or 3% longer. not sure of the weight difference (someone will tell us), but over the first four years, I believe there were a number of useful improvements to the 912 (still, I was sorry to see my '66 go... such is life)

The certainty expressed here about the swb vs lwb 912 is a fine case of "the increasing importance of the smaller difference" common to enthusiast communities of every kind. who really knows what you are after? at Rennsport Reunion II, a bunch of guys shooting the breeze on 912s told me I was crazy to do anything but "properly restore" mine. so, I abandoned converting it to electric motor... but everything else remained on the table, since I could just pull the matching numbers engine & do whatever. "if I were you" doing a project, the price of entry for the condition of the chassis would trump swb vs lwb. +, it sounds like there might be a big savings seeking out a '69. best of luck (& check out the 912 Registry site, great, supportive bunch)

A 912 makes so little power that I would think it could have a wheelbase of one inch (a measurement figure that Deez is very familiar with!!!) and still handle just fine!

^^^ Only because you keep asking me to measure twice. I could get more accurate measurements if you would just manscape.

I'll leave that androgynous stuff to Phatt and the other sensitive 912 boyz; lumberjack grooming only, for me, spank you very much, Deez!


Once one has owned a 912, the funk can never be fully removed - not even with muriatic acid or a hand grenade!

I am telling youz naysayer guyz.... You have the 912 all wrong. I will just keep digging my orange one ~ no matter what you say.

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You're included.
Like I said. I want a old long hood car for the style and can't really see paying three to four times more for 50hp. And the 911 would be slow compared to my other cars too. The cost to make a 2.0L (or whatever year I get) fast are too much.
So why not a 912 if it's just a style and feel I'm wanting drive.

It could end up just like the Escort I purchased to commute to work with back in 96 or 97. I sold it three weeks later. It was Just too dam slow. But I am older and have slightly more patience now.

But it's just a thought at this point. I may build another fast car after all. Twin Turbo has always rolled off the tongue so nicely. <--- Threw in a soft ball for Rawknee.

a 2.5 with a turbo

You d-bags miss the point...lol...

And let me tell you, I'm happy to be able to pick up breakfast for my little girls after some of the third world **** holes I served in. Mundane is good.

MattR

Look - our very own PhattMatt and MichaelBeastly enjoying an afternoon of 912 motoring together!!!

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It looks like yer tongue can handle more than just a couple of turbos, Deez!!!

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Bwhahahhaha. Alright... Am I barney or Fred? Characters... All of 'ya.

That's between you and Phatt!!! :eek:

:D

You are one deranged mother ****er!

I think I just got a warm fuzzy, Phatt - thanks!!!

With a tongue like that I could play with the man in the boat and toss the salad at the same time. :eek:

^^^^And you will surely make Ronnie smile!

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^^^

I'm tellin' ya', 912 guys are the freakiest of the freaky freaks! Maybe I need to by one of those after all (a 912, not Phatt - I already bought him for a dollar fiddy!)!