"Middies" 1974-1977

[Tarek307]

I'm always looking at classic 911's and middles in good presentable condition seem to be climbing

[GothingNC]

Average value at $41K now.


https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1974-Porsche-911-Carrera_2.7

Meanwhile the SC is about $30K ??

https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1982-Porsche-911-SC_3.0

[SalParadise]

Originally Posted by GothingNC

Average value at $41K now.

Meanwhile the SC is in the mid 20's ??

https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1974-Porsche-911-Carrera_2.7

Meanwhile the SC is about $30K ??

https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1982-Porsche-911-SC_3.0

Yes, that's $41K for a CARRERA not a regular '74 (even though there isn't much difference).

[GothingNC]

Originally Posted by SalParadise

Yes, that's $41K for a CARRERA not a regular '74 (even though there isn't much difference).

Thanks !

Average value for the normal 74 911 Coupe is $20K for #3 Condition and $34K for #2 (Excellent)

[Rick Brooklyn]

The blue 74 targa (solid #3) on BAT sold for $31.5k. I think hagerty is off by a half mile.

[Matt Monson]

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/963245-fs-1974-911-no-engine-transmission.html

This car, no engine no gearbox, is already sold.

[SalParadise]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/963245-fs-1974-911-no-engine-transmission.html

This car, no engine no gearbox, is already sold.

I thought that was a fair deal for that car. People are coming to realize that there are very, very few '74 and '75 cars still surviving - and that the ones that are surviving are sometimes very rusty. Adam (Unobtanium) sold that middie '75 last week on eBay that had a lot of rust for more than $14K - and that thing was a serious project.

[nathanbs]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/963245-fs-1974-911-no-engine-transmission.html

This car, no engine no gearbox, is already sold.

Is it me or does this car look to have carrera bodywork on it? Looks flared a bit. By the way try finding an ok carrera for less than $60k Hagerty is off a bit for sure

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by nathanbs

Is it me or does this car look to have carrera bodywork on it? Looks flared a bit. By the way try finding an ok carrera for less than $60k Hagerty is off a bit for sure

Yes, it has Carrera rear flares. Someone started to build a rep out of it. It's a 74S.

It was originally Copper Brown Metallic. The color change was done glass out and very completely, but the prep wasn't great. I seriously considered buying it and flipping it after finishing it since I have a spare 3.0l and 915 gearbox. But too many projects too little time...

[nathanbs]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Yes, it has Carrera rear flares. Someone started to build a rep out of it. It's a 74S.

It was originally Copper Brown Metallic. The color change was done glass out and very completely, but the prep wasn't great. I seriously considered buying it and flipping it after finishing it since I have a spare 3.0l and 915 gearbox. But too many projects too little time...

Thanks for the info. I'm looking for a 74-75 carrera roller. Like this but a real carrera as I don't want any traces of the flares being welded on. The price is hard to beat though. Sold?

[scottb2706]

Originally Posted by SalParadise

I thought that was a fair deal for that car. People are coming to realize that there are very, very few '74 and '75 cars still surviving - and that the ones that are surviving are sometimes very rusty. Adam (Unobtanium) sold that middie '75 last week on eBay that had a lot of rust for more than $14K - and that thing was a serious project.

Probably a stupid question...but, why is a 74 or 75 more desirable than a 76 or 77?

Is this just a California thing (emissions exemption on pre-76)?

Is it because the 76 and 77 are galvanized and more survived thus making the 74 and 75 harder to find?

Or, is there some other difference that makes them more desirable?

[Rick Brooklyn]

Cali emissions, 9 blade fan from the factory, no thermal reactors (and chrome trim, at least for me)

Also smaller bumperettes on the '74.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by nathanbs

Thanks for the info. I'm looking for a 74-75 carrera roller. Like this but a real carrera as I don't want any traces of the flares being welded on. The price is hard to beat though. Sold?

It was done at the window sill, like my car was.

Yes, sold. He had a guy in line after me who was ready to send a deposit prior to even driving up the coast to see it in person.

[Cornerlot]

Originally Posted by nathanbs

Thanks for the info. I'm looking for a 74-75 carrera roller. Like this but a real carrera as I don't want any traces of the flares being welded on. The price is hard to beat though. Sold?

The factory welded them on too during those years .

[nathanbs]

Originally Posted by Cornerlot

The factory welded them on too during those years .

do you know where the weld was? I suppose i can put my 74 US Carrera up in the air and look. That may change things quite a bit for me as I can just get a non carrera donor car

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by Cornerlot

The factory welded them on too during those years .

The lip is different too. IIRC, the flat face of it is wider than SC or 3.2 Carrera

[nathanbs]

Originally Posted by Cornerlot

The factory welded them on too during those years .

I know the wider RS flares were welded on as a flare but I think the 74-77 Carreras were an entire quarter or uniside welded on.

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

The lip is different too. IIRC, the flat face of it is wider than SC or 3.2 Carrera

I've heard this a few times but I've also heard that they are identical to the SC many times and I dont have anything but Carreras here to look at unfortunately

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by nathanbs

I know the wider RS flares were welded on as a flare but I think the 74-77 Carreras were an entire quarter or uniside welded on.

I've heard this a few times but I've also heard that they are identical to the SC many times and I dont have anything but Carreras here to look at unfortunately

There's some pictures around here somewhere. It's not a myth. I've had both side by side for comparison before. If you dig into 74 Carrera lore you'll find that only the early ones got the 73 RS type flare. Partway through production they had changed. I think that's where the idea that they are the same as SC came from.

[Tarek307]

The mid years seem to be climbing up in value..quick

[nathanbs]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

There's some pictures around here somewhere. It's not a myth. I've had both side by side for comparison before. If you dig into 74 Carrera lore you'll find that only the early ones got the 73 RS type flare. Partway through production they had changed. I think that's where the idea that they are the same as SC came from.

Interesting. Ok so to be clear RS type flare is a huge difference from standard 74-77 carrera correct? Secondly "Part way through production they had changed" ok so changed to what? a 2 year only 74-75 carrera flare? a 4 year 74-77 carrera flare? or a 74-77 carrera + 78-83? SC flare?