Your thoughts on BaT's 68 911e hotrod w/ 3.0?

[MrBonus]

I've wanted a hotrod since I bought my '89 and I am in love with this. Where do you think the final sale price will fall?

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-porsche-911e/

It was a Trissl car back in 2014 and he was asking $75.5k back then and has received some sprucing up.

[specialtyoneinc]

I feel like it will sell in the $70s. You never know with these hotrod builds though. That car sounds/looks real fun.

[MrBonus]

Originally Posted by specialtyoneinc

I feel like it will sell in the $70s. You never know with these hotrod builds though. That car sounds/looks real fun.

I've noticed pricing tends to go with styling. A 71T hot rod on there that wasn't quite as tastefully done (with a 2.8) sold for just under 43 while others pushed well into the 70s.

I was guessing 70s as well but the market seems fickle with these.

I'm a hesitant bidder but I don't think I'm in at that price point.

[1979-930]

It has the components to look like a cool Hot Rod. But it's missing something. The look does not hit the wow button. The wheels are too skinny. Tires and ride height are too tall for my taste. It looks like dads Porsche is trying to look like an Outlaw by adding some stickers. And I don't like Rally lights on hoods. But that's just me.
I like what he did with the interior and the engine sounds good in the video. It's not a 75k car to me. Especially if the this car in the other thread http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/941941-69-911t-w-3-2-915-a.html is a 50k car according to the input from others. Then no way is the Gray one worth $25K more.

[blucille]

Considering BAT owns the site and the car...I can't imagine they will let it sell at a loss. Reserve or no reserve.

[MrBonus]

Originally Posted by 1979-930

It has the components to look like a cool Hot Rod. But it's missing something. The look does not hit the wow button. The wheels are too skinny. Tires and ride height are too tall for my taste. It looks like dads Porsche is trying to look like an Outlaw by adding some stickers. And I don't like Rally lights on hoods. But that's just me.
I like what he did with the interior and the engine sounds good in the video. It's not a 75k car to me. Especially if the this car in the other thread http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/941941-69-911t-w-3-2-915-a.html is a 50k car according to the input from others. Then no way is the Gray one worth $25K more.

I agree however a wider rear Fuch or Minilite would transform the look of this car in my opinion and it wouldn't be an expensive modification.

[mdu968]

The pictures from when BAT bought the car from Trissl showed the car with Minilites.
Looked pretty good. Also had another pair of lights
.1968 Porsche 911 Hot Rod R - Trissl Sports Cars
Will be interested to see what it sells for, I like the car but not at $75k

[SalParadise]

I'm guessing $57-$59K. But that's me. And that's even too high for me.

[mulsanne79]

Nice HR. Agree that Minilites would look better.. But those can be arranged.

The only thing I would want to point out about these HRs is that you have to be very careful about the quality of the workmanship. We used to specialize in selling them and it was quite the task to really find a good one for a decent price. We came across too many of them that were done poorly, but looked great in photos.

Auto Kennel always has a few really nice builds and they are usually $120k plus. And that's a well justified price for a good build.

Good luck with bidding and make sure you ask as many questions as possible.

[MrBonus]

Originally Posted by mulsanne79

Nice HR. Agree that Minilites would look better.. But those can be arranged.

The only thing I would want to point out about these HRs is that you have to be very careful about the quality of the workmanship. We used to specialize in selling them and it was quite the task to really find a good one for a decent price. We came across too many of them that were done poorly, but looked great in photos.

Auto Kennel always has a few really nice builds and they are usually $120k plus. And that's a well justified price for a good build.

Good luck with bidding and make sure you ask as many questions as possible.

Yeah, this is ultimate my fear buying at a distance at this price point. It's a lot of money to put up without a thorough vetting of a car that was largely built in a garage rather than a factory.

I have to wonder if the fantasy of a hot rod is better than the reality of a well sorted largely stock 911.

[Milesaway]

They won't be selling it at a loss and it was $75k when they bought it so + that.

[bgyglfr]

Not to knock the car but while it looks like a quality car, it doesn't have "high level level" build written all over it.

-To have the correct character, A swb should have a high strung short stroke motor with carbs. 3.0 with CIS is a no-no in my book. (My personal arbitrary rule. lol). I'm sure the 3.0 is fun. It just looses some of the swb love to me.
-While nice, the interior is pretty basic with off the shelf parts.
-No mention of upgraded brakes.
-No heat/heat exchangers

It strikes me of a nice budget oriented hot rod. That said, any swb should demand a bit of a premium to a lwb car. I agree with the assessment of $70-$80k. I have built similar cars on a similar budget. Seems like an honest car that someone could make a some key changes to potentially push it up to six figures.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Originally Posted by MrBonus

I have to wonder if the fantasy of a hot rod is better than the reality of a well sorted largely stock 911.

Not a chance (if you don't mind the added complexity of a power modded, component switched, etc. car) - stock couldn't carry a well built/modded 911's jock!

[Macroni]

This car was at one point an iconic hot rod, built prior to these cars being fashionable. It was owned by a driver who used it for performance and events. This car worked up a sweat. It was stripped down for lightening not fashion and the original motor was modded for incremental HP. This car was an original one of the classic SWBs from the early years. These were cars owned by the likes of Bob Titon, Rolly, Chris Neilson, Eric Linden to name a few.... It is a shame the original motor was change but the stogy 3.0L will make someone happy...... Value; I would say there is a premium for the SWB so I am in the $75,000 camp.

[blucille]

The pasta guy nailed it.

[MrBonus]

Originally Posted by Macroni

This car was at one point an iconic hot rod, built prior to these cars being fashionable. It was owned by a driver who used it for performance and events. This car worked up a sweat. It was stripped down for lightening not fashion and the original motor was modded for incremental HP. This car was an original one of the classic SWBs from the early years. These were cars owned by the likes of Bob Titon, Rolly, Chris Neilson, Eric Linden to name a few.... It is a shame the original motor was change but the stogy 3.0L will make someone happy...... Value; I would say there is a premium for the SWB so I am in the $75,000 camp.

As always, I appreciate your input.

I love my '89 but have long wanted something just a bit lighter and a bit less luxurious. I don't have any longing for the older motors since my experience with them is limited so I imagine I'm the appropriate audience for this 3.0 SWB. The only things I'd add are, as mentioned, a wider rear wheel/tire and eventually heat.

I don't think I'll be a buyer at your valuation which was kind of what I was expecting.

[MrBonus]

Originally Posted by bgyglfr

Not to knock the car but while it looks like a quality car, it doesn't have "high level level" build written all over it.

-To have the correct character, A swb should have a high strung short stroke motor with carbs. 3.0 with CIS is a no-no in my book. (My personal arbitrary rule. lol). I'm sure the 3.0 is fun. It just looses some of the swb love to me.
-While nice, the interior is pretty basic with off the shelf parts.
-No mention of upgraded brakes.
-No heat/heat exchangers

It strikes me of a nice budget oriented hot rod. That said, any swb should demand a bit of a premium to a lwb car. I agree with the assessment of $70-$80k. I have built similar cars on a similar budget. Seems like an honest car that someone could make a some key changes to potentially push it up to six figures.

All good points as well. Thanks for the input.

[70SATMan]

Originally Posted by pmax

Car has all the go-fast ornaments but has no sign of actually being driven fast.

Tom Tweed's build and I remember it when it still had a plexiglass rear screen. Believe me, you are sorely mistaken about it not being seriously driven.

BAT has taken some of the edge off it to make it more palatable to a street oriented enthusiast but, both he and the car did not disappoint.

[bgyglfr]

One negative from these cars getting so much attention these days, there aren't as many guys out there punishing these cars like they should. Hopefully the new owner will drive it like the original builder/owner did.

[Macroni]

This was not a poseur's car...... The motor needs to be changed back, it needs moody carbs that will smell, S cams that sing at high RPMs .... interior needs to be stripped of all materials post 1973 to capture the simplistic nature of the period. The new owner will then have a very authentic period sports purpose 911, one that you would see running on weekends at local events or rallies. A purposeful driver.......


Then find a desolate quiet curvy road....an early Sunday morning at the first light of the sun, population sleeping, a loyal mate similarly equipped with machine and outlook then..... enjoy..........