Approx value ranges for 356 SC

[littleoldman]

Thanks all. I’ll post pictures next week.

[dougdadmac]

Rust free? The conventional wisdom is that 356s started rusting at the factory. Porsche made more C/SC cars than any other 356 model. You could easily pay 90K for a very nice #2 C and SC brings a 15-20K premium assuming all numbers match.

[littleoldman]

Back in the market as the PPI revealed issues.

If you see a nice #2/3 car I am interested.

Nobody is getting younger...my dads in his 80's!

[ficke]

Not c/sc but a nice b in your area to look at for a comparison.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/989023-1960-porsche-356-super-coupe-gt-tanker.html

[littleoldman]

Thanks. I’ll share with my dad. Not sure he loves yellow.
Thanks

[NYNick]

Originally Posted by littleoldman

Thanks. I’ll share with my dad. Not sure he loves yellow.
Thanks

That yellow car draws my interest, but something tells me caveat emptor. Just a hunch.

[drauz]

https://www.mohrimports.com/cars-sold/porsche/1964-porsche-356-sc-coupe/971.html

Maybe a father/son cross-country trek to recover this one?
Btw, it might be illuminating for readers to learn of what the PPI revealed. Rust? Accident(s)? Drivetrain problems?

[littleoldman]

PPI was performed by Bobby Singh at Manhattan Motors Sports in Roslyn. He is a well respected 356/911 guy here in the tri-state.

Here is what he revealed...and keep in mind the seller wanted 109K obo.

All 4 shocks gone
All rubber bushings in suspension crumbling
Rust in some areas well concealed by shutz and other seam sealing compounds
Bondo on the doors (door shut lines where off) - which he said indicates longitudinals that are weak
Although the paint was 20+ years old, it was shiny and smooth - sans bondo "all over" and visible sanding marks above passenger door
Weeping trans
Weeping Engine valve covers
Wet carbs
- seemingly all rubber dried up and that was all before he drove the car!

For the price and condition, he said we could do much better.

BTW - he showed me several projects and wow, he has some serious good stuff being built....mainly 356's and a handful of early 911s.

A great day of fun for me with terrible PPI results for the car!

[pmax]

Originally Posted by littleoldman

Although the paint was 20+ years old, it was shiny and smooth - sans bondo "all over" ...

... like some of the specimens in this thread. Your PPI guy is a keeper.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-marketplace-discussion/974583-53k-body-work-73k-body-work-you-decide.html

[ficke]

Originally Posted by littleoldman

PPI was performed by Bobby Singh at Manhattan Motors Sports in Roslyn. He is a well respected 356/911 guy here in the tri-state.

Here is what he revealed...and keep in mind the seller wanted 109K obo.

All 4 shocks gone
All rubber bushings in suspension crumbling
Rust in some areas well concealed by shutz and other seam sealing compounds
Bondo on the doors (door shut lines where off) - which he said indicates longitudinals that are weak
Although the paint was 20+ years old, it was shiny and smooth - sans bondo "all over" and visible sanding marks above passenger door
Weeping trans
Weeping Engine valve covers
Wet carbs
- seemingly all rubber dried up and that was all before he drove the car!

For the price and condition, he said we could do much better.

BTW - he showed me several projects and wow, he has some serious good stuff being built....mainly 356's and a handful of early 911s.

A great day of fun for me with terrible PPI results for the car!

Once again a number 2 car is reveled to be a number 4 car in fact.
60 -70K would be a fair price for that car not 109K

The most common mistake is people over rate their cars.
I am glad you got a PPI that revealed the true level of this car.

[Matt Monson]

Bobby does do nice work.

What about just finding a C with 912 engine and disc brake conversion? We must have done a dozen of thrm at Carquip in the 6 years i was there. There have to be some out there at a substantial savings from an SC.

[drauz]

Matt, I think you meant a B w/ the brake conversion. Good option.
My own SC’s “not for sale” price is now $80k. A coupla more truisms worth repeating when it comes to 356s (or any old sports car);
More than anything else, you are buying the chassis. & Always have a 2nd set of eyes when evaluating a car... even a pro can get blinded by passion, or just bright lights.
Your experience shared here is going to help a lot of folk who are thinking about their first 356.

[littleoldman]

Is it hard to believe that an “unnamed dealer” would represent a car for $109k and know of these major shortfalls in the car? If they did, the price should be in the $low 70s. The fact that they priced it at 109 means they think it’s a #2 car... which clearly it was not.

A few leads are being followed - thanks.

I’m widening the range to include cabriolets. And extending the years of consideration.

[dougdadmac]

Matt No one wants a 356 with 912 engine anymore.I know because I have one. Everything has to be numbers matching. You can put in your ad that the car is a 65 C with non matching 912 engine and still the first thing asked is "Do the numbers match?"

[dougdadmac]

Very nice 62 Normal with S90 engine and C disc brakes: https://porsche356registry.org/classifieds/20214

[drauz]

I’ll take any solid 356 w/ a 912 motor anyday. The more hype’d people are about “numbers matching”, the greater the sales of number punch sets.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by drauz

Matt, I think you meant a B w/ the brake conversion. Good option.

My bad. I never did any 356 deals, so never learned the nuances of the model line. Tom kept that business in his sales portfolio, even when he was really sick and I was running the business solo in his absence. I just remember doing a bunch of those long term conversions and being given the parts list to order for them. Most of the ones we did didn't stay stock and ended up with a Shasta 1720 conversion and gearbox job in addition to the brake conversion.

I'm amazed that they are hard to sell. It's the only kind of 356 I would ever buy. At the risk of bringing Rawknees into the conversation, I just couldn't drive around in a car like that without 90+hp to make it fun.

[littleoldman]

I want 90+hp and will open search to include engine swapped upgraded cars as long as the body and mechanicals are superb.

The matching number is nice but not a necessity.

[Canine64]

I love my 59 A Coupe with 912 motor. Fun as Hell to drive, and not so perfect that I’m afraid to really drive it. In fact, put neatly 4000 Miles on it in 6 months. Best Porsche driving purchase I’ve made in years. New P cars are just Meh.....

[littleoldman]

I bet that’s fun. I’m interested in finding one for a similar experience