Current M491 Values
 

I recently purchased an '84 M491 in Slate Blue with Beige interior.
Local Microsoft manager retiring back to UK. My intention is to sell it.
Very nice driving car with no mechanical issues. Has 198k miles, but
Doesn't look it! Passenger seats looks like new. No oil leaks, smoke, etc.
Has 180-185 compression, and runs and drives great. COA, both keys,
Owners manual, tool kit, tire compressor. $57k in service receipts back to
1990. Clean carfax. Stock Fuch's. Does have newer $3k B&B full exhaust. Ownership history is older professionals. Curious what
The best route is for resale and value? Thinking of Listing on Bring a Trailer.
Appreciate any insight.

1984 m491
 

Not sure on the M491 but driver 930s with miles comparable are going for mid $70k. So if your near that number you’re too high. I’d say mid $50s

I’d agree based on this sampling.

https://bringatrailer.com/search/m491/



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Cracking 50k with 200k miles seems like a stretch to me. And while BaT is your best bet for maximizing value, there’s no guarantee that they’ll accept it.

Yes... $50k is a stretch. I'm more realistic
And looking in the $40's...
Funny... I had. '78 930 with 238k that was a great driver
Like this car. i think when you get an honest car it treats
You right:)

Jeez. Those are some high mileage cars you’ve had. If I added up all of the miles on my 930’s, they don’t equal this car alone.

I think 40’s is more realistic for this car, though BaT is known for surprising to the upside. Maybe this color generates more interest and proves me wrong and it breaks 50k. It is a far better color than most imo, so I guess it’s possible.

Does the $57k in receipts include major engine and trans rebuilds?

Full Transmission Rebuild approx 25k miles ago. No
Receipts as far as engine Rebuild. Compression
Numbers are good at 180-185. Starts, runs, and drives great.
Doesn't leak a drop of oil either.

Doesn't leak a drop of oil...famous last words.

That is a great candidate for a hotrod with a 4.0....

$50K of "routine maintenance" then. PO must have kept it well.

The 3.2s are a great engine indeed.

She's a beauty!

You might check this RL thread that we have going... https://rennlist.com/forums/911-forum/974996-m491-m470-911-carrera-1985-1989-values.html

You'll note that there's an '86 mentioned that's also pending potential BAT listing.

Even with the high miles it is a special car, if somebody wanted what sounds like a well sorted driver at half the cost of a lower mile 491 it would be a great choice. As an owner of a 88 Turbo-Look, I can say they are one of the best driving 3.2's out there. I assume your price point has room for profit. Good luck with the sale.

hmmm...Microsoft mgr....didn't Bill Gates once own a 930 just like this? (remember that Bill Gates speeding ticket thread while back? pic of car also, and looks very familiar!)

doh...(head slap)...yes, I do believe that BG's car was an actual 930 - not an M491

If you're looking for $40's, shouldn't be any need to mess with BaT. Dump it up on Pelican and it should move quickly. Miles are an issue, but easily fixed with price.

Bill Gates had a 79 930 petrol blue with black interior.

And, in the past few hours, this has hit BAT (and it isn't the one I referred to earlier)... https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-porsche-911-carrera-m491/#comment-2281495

Just listed it on Seattle's Craigslist at $43,950
Be posting on Pelican soon.

Good thread on RL discussing M491 values.

https://rennlist.com/forums/911-forum/974996-m491-m470-911-carrera-1985-1989-values.html

Remember the M491 they had over at Edmunds? Had to laugh at their attempts to improve the car for resale. Went to France for around $25K circa 2012.

BAT ad says you're a dealer.

That was a surprise.

My car is not on BAT. I'm a private party.
Bought from a customer of our shop that is moving back to U.K.
Pulled my ad off Craigslist. Got tired of all the brokers.
This is a great driver for an end user that doesn't want to pay
$75-100k for a garage queen.

Sorry for the mistake !
I was surprised and am glad to be corrected.

Like I said, your M491 looks like it has been well kept, judging from the spent.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/999590-1984-m491-turbo-look-carrera.html

The overnight sale of this very nice driver says it's well bought.

More than fair asking. I would not have let it go that cheap. Left $12K on the table.

It was just priced right, thus quick and easy sale. I really doubt a 200k mile M491 is worth 55k.

Couple thousand easy.

The TL is not my cup of tea but there's plenty others.

Maybe or maybe not. We'll never know. I could see more money here though. I think it was a good car. A great detailing and a very good writeup would have been thousands more easily.

A couple fantastic beasts...

1989 Porsche 911 Carrera Cabriolet 'Turbo-Look'
HIGH BID $76,113 USD
911 Carrera Cabriolet 'Turbo-Look' EST. PRICE $98.42K-$118.11K USD
EXTERIOR Grand Prix White
SILVERSTONE AUCTIONS
INTERIOR Navy Blue
Lot 539 Silverstone Classic: Classic Car Sale
ODOMETER 35463 mi
CHASSIS Nº WP0ZZZ91ZKS150741
July 21, 2018 11:23AM (EST)

http://d39jj55bl6wreq.cloudfront.net...-0012256/2.jpg


1988 Porsche 911 Carrera Targa 'Turbo-Look'
1988 Porsche HIGH BID $102,360 USD
911 Carrera Targa 'Turbo-Look' EST. PRICE $118.11K-$131.23K USD
EXTERIOR Grand Prix White
SILVERSTONE AUCTIONS
INTERIOR White
Lot 541 Silverstone Classic: Classic Car Sale
ODOMETER 20053 mi
CHASSIS Nº WP0ZZZ91ZKS140250
July 21, 2018 11:26AM (EST)

http://d39jj55bl6wreq.cloudfront.net...-0012257/6.jpg

Checkout that white interior!

View Lot List - Silverstone Auctions

Those price estimates weren’t based in reality, those were bid to what they’re worth. More RNMs due to unrealistic expectations.

Any M491ers coming to Rennsport? If so, hit my up via PM and let's connect at the event.

Data point : 66k mile red coupe. bid to $67k. no sale.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-porsche-911-carrera-24/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaig n=2018-09-08

I have a chance to buy an 86' m491 coupe. 115,000 miles. Paint is in bad shape, no rust, interior is rough and it has not run in 3 years. The seller agreed to get it running for me so I can do a leak down test. I am having a very hard time gauging what it is worth now. Anyone have any thoughts?

Yeah. Buy something that doesn’t need what sounds like a full restoration, you’ll end up spending less money on it and more time enjoying it.

$35,000

Depends on what you mean by bad paint and rough interior. At 115K, it shouldn't be too bad for a driver.

Pics will help.

The hood would need to be painted. Top of car is very faded from sitting in sun. Interior is driver quality. Big concern is all of the rubber on the car. I don't have any pictures at this time. Hopefully this weekend. Is it worth $35,000 if I plan to keep it and do the work over time?

Just spend a bit more now so you’re not ‘financing’ a restoration over time. Those that do it the way you’re considering, only do so because they either want to do all of the work themselves, or they have to buy like that because they don’t have enough up front money for the right car out of the gate.

I bet this one can be bought for 40k. It’s got slightly less miles than yours, and probably in far better condition.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2204171

You’ll be way upside down spending 35k on a 115k mile car that needs quite a bit of work to it. It will ALWAYS cost way more than you expect it to unless you’re doing all of the work yourself. Buy a car that PPI’s out, instead of one that comes with a five figure estimate of repairs from the PPI shop.