Value of a '74 with a 3.2
 

So, a buddy bought a '74 911 years ago and started coming out to the track with me. Its a 2 owner (black) car and he seldom drives it now so I was thinking about talking to him to see if he wants it out of the garage.

Details:

- 2 owner.....140k ish miles on the tub
- Faded paint....needs a repaint
- Some rust in the front fenders (he has 2 rust free ones), I am sure there is more and I need to budget for that!
- He got tired of the 2.7 performance on the track so I found a local 3.2 on CL and he had it professionally installed.....good compression/leakdown 5 years ago, maybe driven 5k miles since.
- He has the original 2.7.
- 4 7x16's but it will need tires
- Suspension was refreshed for the track years ago....big bars / tarrett bushings etc. Too big for the street. I'd need to soften her.
- Ok interior but DE type seats. Cannot remember if he has the original seats. I'd need to do somthing. No 3 points only 6 pt DE belts.

So, what we have is a '74 with a unknown mileage 3.2 that is stock body that needs some rust repair and a repaint.

Whats it worth these days? I don't really "need" another Porsche but the thought of a stock looking '74 with a 3.2 (7:31 R&P) has me interested in another project.

my crystal ball says we need some pictures. could be highly desired. with the original motor included it could be restored if that's yir game. if a slick lid crank window light weight 74 with a 3.2 & questionable interior it sounds like you could be 1/2 way to a street, dare I say outlaw/hotrod candidate!!

or buy it for whatever, backdate it (narrow bodied+) sell if on BAT for 140k.

I can get pics....dog sitting in a few weeks but I don't think they will influence one much. I have thought about hot rod/ back date but my gut says keep this one stock with the 3.2 since many have been bastarized. I don't like black though :(

My understanding is that a ‘74 coupe needed the added weight of power windows to meet US DOT. This may have been a carrera only issue. The heavier targa roof allowed for lighter manual windows

my '74 coupe has manual windows...

Lol well there goes that. Maybe it’s a carrera thing. Is it a carrera? I think the carreras are slightly lighter?

My regular 911 (not S) '74 had manual windows. I've never seen a '74 regular or S with electric windows. The DOT never had any weight requirements. A US '74 Triumph Spitfire weighed 1750 pounds...

Weird I’ll have to look for it. Could be completely wrong. It was the explanation I remember reading why my 74 US Carrera targa had manual windows and not power like seemingly all of the Carrera coupes.

Maybe the Targa top and power windows were too much weight for the 2.7. :D

Without pics and seeing it. I'd say $25-28 is a deal for you. $28-32 is fair. He'd probably get $40 on BAT

20-25k

Thanks 1979-930 and ficke........ I was thinking $20 - 25 so I am at least in the ball park albeit at the low end. Crazy to think it could get $40k especially give the unknown rust and paint needed.

I still remember the days when that car would be $7500 :) In fact my '78 SC that had a 85 3.2 in it was only $5k but that was 11 years ago.

I'll agree with the $25k range. If it had nice paint and decent interior it would be $5-10K more or higher.

^^^ We're supposed to be pumping up the value of 74's Matt :rolleyes: Get with the program.:D

I think these numbers are right on. Buy for less and he is a better friend than you. Spare engine is a $5k bump alone.

As a price point.
I tired to sell this car for a friend, http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/996241-1977-911s-targa.html
Similar to the car you described , mid year with good later engine, except this car has a glass out paint job with no rust.
Bidding on bring a trailer only went to 24K and Ebay went to 24.5K

No bites from ad on pelican at $31K

Except 74 is 50 state smog exempt and both here and CA it needs testing. That’s good for a 10-20% bump on a 74.

Off topic but I liked that 77. If I had got off my arse and sold my 86 by now i might have bought it.

Yup, good point on the smog.
If I had not tried to sell this car recently I would say Derrick estimate is right on.

The market changes monthly.
The 77 is a good car, I really do not want it but I will buy it if I can not find someone else to buy it.
Buy it Matt.

You need to save your money for that turbo you want.


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I’m gonna be distracted for a while. I finally get my Cayman back from Cerbelli tomorrow. Put a short ring and pinion in too. I will drive it for a few weeks then work on getting the sequential into it. I hope to drive it to Laguna for rennsport, with sequential.

There is a disparity between any '76/'77 and '74/'75. As someone who owns a '75, which used to be the least desirable 911 ever, I believe this dubious distinction has been taken by a '77, which to many doesn't hold any advantage whatsoever - the advantage of any '74/'75 being emissions in most states (as most know).

That is one clean '77. But at even at $24K (which is probably market correct and realistic in most peoples' minds), no one seems to care - not to mention, at all, at $31K.

The OP car needs paint and has rust, it is a 74 but really you think 28-32K is a fair market and 40k is possible on BAT? because in some states it is smog exempt?
So a rusty smog exempt is worth that much more? what would a nice 74 like my 77 bring? That estimate could help the OP decide to buy this 74 or a nicer one if it is only 10k, it takes well over 10k to do a fenders off, glass out, repaint with all new seals.

I personally really doubt a nice no rust painted 74 like my 77 would get 50K on BAT or be worth 38-42K as a fair market price.
OP car is fair at 25K for all parties is my guess.
But then again I was really wrong on this 77 value, so OP would probably be wise to ignore my advice.

Problem is that at this point in the game, all midyears are not created equal. Prices show this.

There has been an interest in the "rookie card" '74 year G-body, and that interest has translated to higher prices. It just has.

To someone in the game (and there are a lot of Californians in the game), the '74 and '75 are more desirable.

I don't know what the correct value is for your '77. Obviously, in its condition, it's better than most I've seen. It has a galvanized body, better updates, and it's more refined than a '74. But why hasn't it sold? Why has it been a struggle to break $25k?

BaT or not, there are some people that are still hung up on the stigma of midyears. To some, they would rather wait it out and find a '74 because it is more desirable in this game - right now.

Would it matter to me? No. I would rather have your '77 over my '75 because it's much cleaner - and it's cleaner than most I have seen. That '77 is a great value. I'd rather have it over a SC.

The market is strange. But an orphan '77 midyear Targa with a different motor still could be a hard sell - and this proves it.

Does it have manual windows? Sunroof?
7s all around - still narrow body (no SC/carrera flares)?
Original color black?

I'm in CA and I like hot-rods (which somebody previously said - this one is halfway there) - so my biased opinion is around 30 as it sits. And you couldn't build it for that without some serious scrounging.. and luck.

Sounds like a fun car. I have an aubergine '75 non-sunroof coupe shell I'm trying to figure out what I want to do with. Hard to figure out pricing on the middies, but certainly still lagging behind everything else.

@Flynt...... yep, pretty sure 7's all around. Black, stock non flared body, rust in front fenders. I assume original paint but tired. I really should not be even thinking about this car, I don't know where I'd put it and I need to get a car for my 15 1/2 year old in a few months.

Definitely not smog exempt in California
Just no smog chec required.
To be legal, car must be smogged to engine year. But that is pretty easy.

^^^ I understand the law the way it’s written. But the facts are nobody is checking 75 and older vehicles. I walked in to DMV for my 74 from another state and they handed me the new registration, plates and tags sight unseen.
So we can we just say their exempt without being corrected?


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