Value of a '74 with a 3.2

[88 Club Sport]

So, a buddy bought a '74 911 years ago and started coming out to the track with me. Its a 2 owner (black) car and he seldom drives it now so I was thinking about talking to him to see if he wants it out of the garage.

Details:

- 2 owner.....140k ish miles on the tub
- Faded paint....needs a repaint
- Some rust in the front fenders (he has 2 rust free ones), I am sure there is more and I need to budget for that!
- He got tired of the 2.7 performance on the track so I found a local 3.2 on CL and he had it professionally installed.....good compression/leakdown 5 years ago, maybe driven 5k miles since.
- He has the original 2.7.
- 4 7x16's but it will need tires
- Suspension was refreshed for the track years ago....big bars / tarrett bushings etc. Too big for the street. I'd need to soften her.
- Ok interior but DE type seats. Cannot remember if he has the original seats. I'd need to do somthing. No 3 points only 6 pt DE belts.

So, what we have is a '74 with a unknown mileage 3.2 that is stock body that needs some rust repair and a repaint.

Whats it worth these days? I don't really "need" another Porsche but the thought of a stock looking '74 with a 3.2 (7:31 R&P) has me interested in another project.

[juanbenae]

my crystal ball says we need some pictures. could be highly desired. with the original motor included it could be restored if that's yir game. if a slick lid crank window light weight 74 with a 3.2 & questionable interior it sounds like you could be 1/2 way to a street, dare I say outlaw/hotrod candidate!!

or buy it for whatever, backdate it (narrow bodied+) sell if on BAT for 140k.

[88 Club Sport]

I can get pics....dog sitting in a few weeks but I don't think they will influence one much. I have thought about hot rod/ back date but my gut says keep this one stock with the 3.2 since many have been bastarized. I don't like black though

[nathanbs]

Originally Posted by juanbenae

my crystal ball says we need some pictures. could be highly desired. with the original motor included it could be restored if that's yir game. if a slick lid crank window light weight 74 with a 3.2 & questionable interior it sounds like you could be 1/2 way to a street, dare I say outlaw/hotrod candidate!!

or buy it for whatever, backdate it (narrow bodied+) sell if on BAT for 140k.

My understanding is that a ‘74 coupe needed the added weight of power windows to meet US DOT. This may have been a carrera only issue. The heavier targa roof allowed for lighter manual windows

[dwelle]

my '74 coupe has manual windows...

[nathanbs]

Originally Posted by dwelle

my '74 coupe has manual windows...

Lol well there goes that. Maybe it’s a carrera thing. Is it a carrera? I think the carreras are slightly lighter?

[SalParadise]

Originally Posted by nathanbs

My understanding is that a ‘74 coupe needed the added weight of power windows to meet US DOT. This may have been a carrera only issue. The heavier targa roof allowed for lighter manual windows

My regular 911 (not S) '74 had manual windows. I've never seen a '74 regular or S with electric windows. The DOT never had any weight requirements. A US '74 Triumph Spitfire weighed 1750 pounds...

[nathanbs]

Originally Posted by SalParadise

My regular 911 (not S) '74 had manual windows. I've never seen a '74 regular or S with electric windows. The DOT never had any weight requirements. A US '74 Triumph Spitfire weighed 1750 pounds...

Weird I’ll have to look for it. Could be completely wrong. It was the explanation I remember reading why my 74 US Carrera targa had manual windows and not power like seemingly all of the Carrera coupes.

[1979-930]

Maybe the Targa top and power windows were too much weight for the 2.7.

Without pics and seeing it. I'd say $25-28 is a deal for you. $28-32 is fair. He'd probably get $40 on BAT

[ficke]

20-25k

[88 Club Sport]

Thanks 1979-930 and ficke........ I was thinking $20 - 25 so I am at least in the ball park albeit at the low end. Crazy to think it could get $40k especially give the unknown rust and paint needed.

I still remember the days when that car would be $7500 In fact my '78 SC that had a 85 3.2 in it was only $5k but that was 11 years ago.

[Matt Monson]

I'll agree with the $25k range. If it had nice paint and decent interior it would be $5-10K more or higher.

[1979-930]

^^^ We're supposed to be pumping up the value of 74's Matt Get with the program.

[eastbay]

Originally Posted by 1979-930

Maybe the Targa top and power windows were too much weight for the 2.7.

Without pics and seeing it. I'd say $25-28 is a deal for you. $28-32 is fair. He'd probably get $40 on BAT

I think these numbers are right on. Buy for less and he is a better friend than you. Spare engine is a $5k bump alone.

[ficke]

As a price point.
I tired to sell this car for a friend, http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/996241-1977-911s-targa.html
Similar to the car you described , mid year with good later engine, except this car has a glass out paint job with no rust.
Bidding on bring a trailer only went to 24K and Ebay went to 24.5K

No bites from ad on pelican at $31K

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by ficke

As a price point.
I tired to sell this car for a friend, http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/996241-1977-911s-targa.html
Similar to the car you described , mid year with good later engine, except this car has a glass out paint job with no rust.
Bidding on bring a trailer only went to 24K and Ebay went to 24.5K

No bites from ad on pelican at $31K

Except 74 is 50 state smog exempt and both here and CA it needs testing. That’s good for a 10-20% bump on a 74.

Off topic but I liked that 77. If I had got off my arse and sold my 86 by now i might have bought it.

[ficke]

Yup, good point on the smog.
If I had not tried to sell this car recently I would say Derrick estimate is right on.

The market changes monthly.
The 77 is a good car, I really do not want it but I will buy it if I can not find someone else to buy it.
Buy it Matt.

[1979-930]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Except 74 is 50 state smog exempt and both here and CA it needs testing. That’s good for a 10-20% bump on a 74.



Off topic but I liked that 77. If I had got off my arse and sold my 86 by now i might have bought it.

You need to save your money for that turbo you want.


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[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by 1979-930

You need to save your money for that turbo you want.


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I’m gonna be distracted for a while. I finally get my Cayman back from Cerbelli tomorrow. Put a short ring and pinion in too. I will drive it for a few weeks then work on getting the sequential into it. I hope to drive it to Laguna for rennsport, with sequential.

[SalParadise]

Originally Posted by ficke

As a price point.
I tired to sell this car for a friend, http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/996241-1977-911s-targa.html
Similar to the car you described , mid year with good later engine, except this car has a glass out paint job with no rust.
Bidding on bring a trailer only went to 24K and Ebay went to 24.5K

No bites from ad on pelican at $31K

There is a disparity between any '76/'77 and '74/'75. As someone who owns a '75, which used to be the least desirable 911 ever, I believe this dubious distinction has been taken by a '77, which to many doesn't hold any advantage whatsoever - the advantage of any '74/'75 being emissions in most states (as most know).

That is one clean '77. But at even at $24K (which is probably market correct and realistic in most peoples' minds), no one seems to care - not to mention, at all, at $31K.