[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by upsscott

A few years back my wife and I were pulling out from a local restaurant and admittedly I failed to properly judge the speed of an oncoming car. He had to slam on his brakes and then proceeded to tailgate me with his brights on and swerving around behind me. He was pissed and I clearly understood why. Anyway he passed me flipping me off and thought that would be it. Well we came to a four way stop and he was in front of me. At the stop he exits the car and starts walking toward us. Instinctively I went into protect my wife mode. I got out of the car while thinking what my next move would be as far as taking this guy to the ground and maybe giving him a little beating. Once he saw me exit my car he stopped, lifted his shirt to show me the handgun he had in his waistband. This was a young, WHITE kid in a small town who was willing to potentially kill someone over a traffic dispute, one that I wholeheartedly admit 100% accountability about. It was unnerving to say the least. I put my hands up and retreated to my car. It’s not worth it to get in these road rage scraps.

Nice anecdotal story, but your example of one means nothing in the face of this:

Originally Posted by McLovin

Interesting discussion, I looked up some stats. What the FBI and govt. stats say:

US homicide offenders by race, 1980–2017[51]

According to the FBI, African-Americans accounted for 55.9% of all homicide offenders in 2019, with whites 41.1%, and "Other" 3.0% in cases where the race was known.[52] Among homicide victims in 2019 where the race was known, 54.7% were black or African-American, 42.3% were white, and 3.1% were of other races.[53][54]

The per-capita offending rate for African-Americans was roughly six times higher than that of whites, and the victim rate is a similar figure. Most homicides were intraracial; where the perpetrator's race was known, 81% of white victims were killed by whites and 91% of black or African-American victims were killed by African-Americans.[54]


51 Justice, National Center for Juvenile. "Crosstabulations of Known Murder Offenders". www.ojjdp.gov. Retrieved September 27, 2020.
52^ "Expanded Homicide Data Table 3: Murder Offenders by Age, Sex, Race, and Ethnicity, 2019". FBI.gov. 2020. Retrieved March 21, 2021.
53^ "Expanded Homicide Data 2019". FBI.
54 ^ "Expanded Homicide Data Table 6: Race, Sex, and Ethnicity of Victim by Race, Sex, and Ethnicity of Offender, 2019". FBI.gov. 2020. Retrieved March 21, 2021.

Emphasis added in case you skimmed past that part. Six times higher than that of whites.

There is a problem here that many are simply unwilling, or unable, to acknowledge. The leading cause of death among young black men is other young black men. Yet there remain far too many apologists, far too many who remain in denial. Putting a "black lives matter" sign on the lawn or bumper sticker on the car isn't going to fix this.