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shanghai_todd 10-27-2007 01:24 AM

Anyone running Zeitronix?
 
Anyone out there running Zeitronix on there 911/930? I like the fact that the ZT-2 can monitoring Air/Fuel ratio, Boost, EGT, RPM datalogging up to 9 hours of data..

Also curious to see if anyone has mounted the LCD display in a 911 and where it was put.

Some of my friends with riced STI's and Balls out Supra's swear by zeitronix and have no complaints other than the boost sensor costing $100.

When comparing both systems I am leaning more towards Zietronix and with being able to display 4 outputs this scores pretty high for me but I know from reading this form that LM-1 wins the popularity contest.

If anyone has expierence with the Zeitronix in a 911 please post your comments.

Zeitronix ($399 with display):
http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm

LM-1 ($349+plus $589 for the Aux Box ):
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/lm1.php

Falk930 10-27-2007 09:06 AM

We are running the Zt-2 on several turbo/supercharged cars
and I like them a lot, quality and support is great.

I want to put one in my 930, but still the exhaust is not ready.
The display I plan to put on top of center console.

One big advantage of the ZT-2 is a programmable relay trigger
and alarm beeper.
For example at 4000rpm and 0,4 bar a relay can be switched.
A boost solenoid can be switched with this.
Or above 5000rpm and above 14 AFR alarm will beep or flash.


Falk

WinRice 10-27-2007 10:20 AM

I've been running one for about 2 years now, and really like it. The readout fits nicely in the stock ashtray opening.

Ag02M5 10-27-2007 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falk930 (Post 3555301)
One big advantage of the ZT-2 is a programmable relay trigger and alarm beeper. For example at 4000rpm and 0,4 bar a relay can be switched. A boost solenoid can be switched with this.

I am planning on doing precisely this...in addition, I will be logging: rpm, boost, afr, and fuel pressure.

Coupled with a Brian Leask WUR...I think I will be pretty well tuned.

I don't know exactly what Zeitronix has lined up but I asked them about a round gauge (that might fit in the clock area) and they told me wait until SEMA. ;)

So next week I should know where I want to take it.

I was looking at Innovate but after reading their forums, I wasn't impressed. They have a product that claims to have the configurable triggers (multiple) but the actual product doesn't support the features advertised/in the manual. No time frame as to when they will either.

No first hand experience though.

shanghai_todd 10-27-2007 07:24 PM

Problem I see with the round gauge is that it will only disply Air/Fuel which is the same for Innovate but if you use the LCD you can display 4 parameters all together and from what my friends have told me the boost is very acurate.

Falk/Winrice, can you guys take some pictures on where you have the LCD? I have a 993 lower dash so I am not sure if the size's are the same

Falk930 10-28-2007 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanghai_todd (Post 3556036)
Problem I see with the round gauge is that it will only disply Air/Fuel which is the same for Innovate but if you use the LCD you can display 4 parameters all together and from what my friends have told me the boost is very acurate.

Falk/Winrice, can you guys take some pictures on where you have the LCD? I have a 993 lower dash so I am not sure if the size's are the same

My taste for the 930 is more the LCD display, the ZR-1 is to modern maybe.
The new ZR-1 round gauge is available, we have tested it here and are impressed.
But wait for SEMA, there will be good news!

ZR-1:
http://www.alumex.de/Dsite/boost/Zei...FRguage400.jpg

Falk

WinRice 10-28-2007 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanghai_todd (Post 3556036)
Falk/Winrice, can you guys take some pictures on where you have the LCD? I have a 993 lower dash so I am not sure if the size's are the same

Here you go!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1193602000.jpg

shanghai_todd 10-29-2007 04:01 AM

Thanks Winrice, I will need to check my 993 lower dash and see if it will fit there. Did you purchase another MAP sensor to measure the boost or did you tap into the stock on?

WinRice 10-29-2007 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanghai_todd (Post 3557858)
Thanks Winrice, I will need to check my 993 lower dash and see if it will fit there. Did you purchase another MAP sensor to measure the boost or did you tap into the stock on?

I'm using the Zeitronix MAP and EGT sensors so I can have independent systems.

Even when I go EFI I'll still keep all the Zeitronix equipment separate, just to have a redundant logging system.

shanghai_todd 10-29-2007 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falk930 (Post 3555301)
We are running the Zt-2 on several turbo/supercharged cars
and I like them a lot, quality and support is great.

I want to put one in my 930, but still the exhaust is not ready.
The display I plan to put on top of center console.

One big advantage of the ZT-2 is a programmable relay trigger
and alarm beeper.
For example at 4000rpm and 0,4 bar a relay can be switched.
A boost solenoid can be switched with this.
Or above 5000rpm and above 14 AFR alarm will beep or flash.


Falk

"For example at 4000rpm and 0,4 bar a relay can be switched" mmmmmm this has me now thinking of additional injector controller :) another +1 for Zeitronix

9dreizig 10-29-2007 09:26 PM

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But wait for SEMA, there will be good news!

So give us a hint about SEMA !!!

shanghai_todd 10-30-2007 12:06 AM

Yea I was thinking the same thing, I was just under the impression that the ZR-1 would be the newest and greatest thing from Zeitronix. If there is more than this than I should hold off on my upcoming purchase

Falk930 11-02-2007 01:14 AM

Just for your info, the ZT-2 displays measurements:
5x2x1 inches.

Falk

Falk930 11-04-2007 02:31 PM

As Sema is over, I can tell that Zeitronix
released the new ZR-2 display.
Its a round display like the above, but you can display
for example AFR on the outer LEDs and either
boost/EGT/AFR/TPS/ or a user def. input with the digits.

I try to get a picture and more details about the function.

Falk

Ag02M5 11-04-2007 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falk930 (Post 3568697)
As Sema is over, I can tell that Zeitronix
released the new ZR-2 display.
Its a round display like the above, but you can display
for example AFR on the outer LEDs and either
boost/EGT/AFR/TPS/ or a user def. input with the digits.

I try to get a picture and more details about the function.

Falk

Any idea of size...ie will it fit in the clock position in our cars. That would http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...s/beerchug.gif.

RT

shanghai_todd 11-04-2007 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falk930 (Post 3568697)
As Sema is over, I can tell that Zeitronix
released the new ZR-2 display.
Its a round display like the above, but you can display
for example AFR on the outer LEDs and either
boost/EGT/AFR/TPS/ or a user def. input with the digits.

I try to get a picture and more details about the function.

Falk

Now that would be worth waiting for :) hopefully with a reasonable price..

Falk930 11-04-2007 10:51 PM

Its a "small" gauge, 52mm.
You will need a spacer to make it fit
in the clock position.

Falk

Ag02M5 11-05-2007 07:18 AM

ZR-2 $139
Zt-2 + ZR-2 $399
ZAVT-1 $69
MAP 3.5 BAR $109

52mm is correct.

And here is a pic.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1194275921.jpg

shanghai_todd 11-06-2007 09:59 PM

Not bad, but curious on how you switch between different modes. I do not see any buttons or switchs on the bezel or face of the guage..

Ag02M5 11-07-2007 11:14 AM

I'm thinking that gauge may be a bit too busy for the austere Porsche interior.

Other than boost, I doubt I would be checking them regularly. Just some tuning runs logged and then an occasional checkup.

I sure would like a pillar mounted gague pod. Why can't someone make one?!?!?!?!? :mad:


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