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BMAN 05-04-2008 01:59 PM

Ran Into A Major Problem Installing Getty Design Front Bumper.
 
A while back I asked, what company would be best and most said Getty Design and stay away from Better Bodies. Better Bodies offered the rear bumper that I wanted due to no cut outs for the exhaust so I went with them and couldn't be happier. The fit was very close with just some small modifications and it fit fine. I received it painted last week from the body shop and installed it yesterday, looks great.

Now the front bumper from Getty was another story. A friend and I went to test fit it and it wasn't ever close, the center front portion where it would bolt to was hitting and it wouldn't allow the bumper to lay flush with the fender and hood. As you can see from the pictures below.

The only thing I see I can do is cut the center section out to allow it to fit snug against the fender/hood. That would leave me with another problem, how would I mount the center section?

I ordered this bumper last November and due to the car was up for the winter I just got around to installing it.

I did leave an email for Getty so I'll wait to see if they respond.

That line should be up against the hood and fenders right?

http://hometown.aol.com/hlrbj/images/turbobumper.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/hlrbj/images/turbobumper4.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/hlrbj/images/turbobumper2.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/hlrbj/images/turbobumper3.jpg

mede8er 05-04-2008 03:28 PM

Kinda looks like they sent a narrow body piece....

BMAN 05-04-2008 03:32 PM

I first thought the same but if you look at the two side pictures they line up against the fenders just need to go back 1" or so.

sand_man 05-04-2008 03:33 PM

The irony of it all...you know the whole Better Body vs. "the others", thing. Huh, I wonder if they sent you the wrong piece????

BMAN 05-04-2008 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sand_man (Post 3923765)
The irony of it all...you know the whole Better Body vs. "the others", thing. Huh, I wonder if they sent you the wrong piece????

I don't see how... Looking at their web page they only offer two C2 bumpers, one narrow and one turbo. On their page you can clearly see the narrow is not what I have. Mine flare on each end for the turbo body.

raceman 05-04-2008 03:52 PM

has your car been in an accident? how did you store the bumper?

copbait73 05-04-2008 03:54 PM

Wow, from my experience this is typical. What is not typical was your back bumper that fit. I think you got lucky with it.
I've worked up numerous front and rear F/G bumper assemblies and all needed some amount of filler to achieve a factory fit.

BMAN 05-04-2008 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raceman (Post 3923800)
has your car been in an accident? how did you store the bumper?

The problems not the car. The bumper center section hits the car 1" to soon which in-turns wont allow the bumper to sit flush. The only way I see is to cut the center section out. By the way the car is all original never been damaged or wrecked.

sand_man 05-04-2008 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMAN (Post 3923785)
I don't see how... Looking at their web page they only offer two C2 bumpers, one narrow and one turbo. On their page you can clearly see the narrow is not what I have. Mine flare on each end for the turbo body.

I see.

A930Rocket 05-04-2008 05:12 PM

I installed a TRE 934 air dam and had to trim back the center section to allow the aor dam to move backk and match up with the fenders. Sounds like you have the same situation.

Does the rubber smile get re-installed with your car? If yes, just cut back the center section as needed.

x98boardwell 05-04-2008 05:14 PM

Ouch
 
BMAN,

Sucks, Sucks and more Sucks. Um, what if you were to shave an inch from the lip on top that meets the hood/trunk portion of the bumper. That seems to be why you cannot move the entire piece back.

Would that affect your ability to properly mount the bumper in any way?

Trying to help.

Bryan

mede8er 05-04-2008 05:14 PM

My Better Bodies kit fit like a glove.....just sayin.....

BMAN 05-04-2008 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x98boardwell (Post 3923975)
BMAN,

Sucks, Sucks and more Sucks. Um, what if you were to shave an inch from the lip on top that meets the hood/trunk portion of the bumper. That seems to be why you cannot move the entire piece back.

Would that affect your ability to properly mount the bumper in any way?

Trying to help.

Bryan

Bryan,

What's up? Thanks, that's my plan and the only thing I can do to make it fit but I just wanted to wait until I hear back from Getty first.

I ordered a 964 turbo smile/trim just don't have it yet. The trim will hide my cut I'll have to make.

x98boardwell 05-04-2008 05:35 PM

Bernard
 
Not much... trying to narrow down a fuel pump (both intermittently turn off when they feel like it) issue at this time. Otherwise, she is running great.

Be sure to post pics when she is done and through your modification process... if you have to.

Best of luck!

Bryan

BMAN 05-04-2008 05:43 PM

Sorry to hear that... Hope you get it figured out. I'll sure get some pictures up once I get it fitted.

raceman 05-04-2008 06:00 PM

l seem to remember having to trim back my fiberglass bumper to fit,it`s not really a problem and the smile covers it all anyways. l`m not sure what you`re actually complaining about...that you have to trim the bumper?

Jeff Alton 05-04-2008 09:18 PM

One need to notch the bumper in two spots to allow it too slide back properly.....

I will dig out a pic............................................... .

Cheers

Jeff Alton 05-04-2008 09:25 PM

Here are the pics showing what I am talking about!


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1209965114.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1209965136.jpg


Cheers

JohnJL 05-05-2008 05:18 AM

My experience is they all need trimming. They are intentionally made oversized behind the seals and overlaps to account for off-center cars (which are a large proportion of cars needing replacement panels.)

Trim them, heat them and form them to fit.

BMAN 05-05-2008 09:08 AM

A little trim wont fix the problem. Let me try to explain it a little better. The center section with the 4 holes are hitting the center section of the car, it falls about 1" short. That center section would have to be cut out and glued or pop riveted back on somehow.

The holes don't even line up.

http://hometown.aol.com/hlrbj/images/turbobumper6.jpg

briankeithsmith 05-05-2008 11:00 AM

So you are trying to put that piece on the 1986 930?

I'm with A930rocket, you're most likely going to have to trip that piece off that yo show there in your pic, with the 4 holes, in order for it to fit.

Do you have a pic of the entire bumper? The front side?

A930Rocket 05-05-2008 01:18 PM

Let me ask another question. Is that piece made for the up to '89 930 or is it made for the C2 Turbo? Could be your trying to fit a part that just doesn't fit or wasn't made your car?

BMAN 05-05-2008 02:57 PM

I'm just so pissed off about this whole situation. I went ahead and cut the 1" I needed off the center section and it fit like it should until I looked at the drivers side, it sits out about 1/2 inch. Now I'm stuck the piece was just made a little to long.

The thing that I'm upset about is, if Getty told me their's a 50% chance it wont fit I would of never got it from them. Every time I asked they said it will fit with minor modifications

The bumper is the right one, it will fit any 911/930 with the wide body up till 89.

http://hometown.aol.com/hlrbj/images...tickingout.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/hlrbj/images...rinstalled.jpg

Jerry S 05-05-2008 06:10 PM

Sorry to hijack this thread, but it sort of applies.

Last year I purchased a Glass valence from Performance Products and it sat in the garage for almost a year. Time came along and I test fitted it and was immediately disappointed when nothing lined up, areas were sort of twisted and it would not fit well at all. After extensive filing and grinding, cutting, and patching, it finally looked like something. THEN I took it to the body shop and after spending a chunk of change, the color did not match. I was SO close to just turfing it and putting the original back on. Then I took up the matters with the body shop and they repainted on their own dime and finally got it right. Now that it is done, I look back and say "Thats what I'm talkin' about".
Patience and it will pay off.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1210039827.jpg

BMAN 05-05-2008 06:34 PM

Well I'm so deep into this project that's theirs no turning back now. I have the C2 rear turbo bumper painted and installed. I just don't see anyway of fixing the problem I have now :(

BReyes 05-05-2008 07:19 PM

Looking at some C2 pics, the rubber trim once wedged in between may fix your problem, definitely after a little grinding/glass work and some vice grips. The color match is a more difficult task.

It is going to look sweet when you are done!

Regards,

DDDD 05-05-2008 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mede8er (Post 3923976)
My Better Bodies kit fit like a glove.....just sayin.....

I ordered a piece from performance products and it turns out that the part actually was made by Better Bodies. That part wasn't close to fitting and I threw it out eventually. Low quality garbage.

Meanwhile, my Getty rear bumper was a perfect fit and also my GT Racing front bumper.

So, in the end, I guess each case is different.

raceman 05-05-2008 08:12 PM

That left side there with the big gap, that looks pretty bad. lf that were mine l`d send that pic to Getty,they may replace it..

DDDD 05-05-2008 08:17 PM

[QUOTE=Jerry S;3926061]Sorry to hijack this thread, but it sort of applies.

Last year I purchased a Glass valence from Performance Products and it sat in the garage for almost a year. Time came along and I test fitted it and was immediately disappointed when nothing lined up, areas were sort of twisted and it would not fit well at all. After extensive filing and grinding, cutting, and patching, it finally looked like something. THEN I took it to the body shop and after spending a chunk of change, the color did not match. I was SO close to just turfing it and putting the original back on. Then I took up the matters with the body shop and they repainted on their own dime and finally got it right. Now that it is done, I look back and say "Thats what I'm talkin' about".
Patience and it will pay off.



You probably got a Better Bodies part from that catalog. That is who supplies them with a lot of their fiberglass stuff.

Jerry S 05-06-2008 06:41 AM

You are probably right. Better bodies does sell the exact unit so I would assume performance guys get it from BB. It was very far from a ready-to-go fit. It worked the heck out of it but now it looks great.

BMAN 05-07-2008 05:30 PM

Update... Getty will take the bumper back and refund shipping too, both ways. That's what I call customer service. I've been talking with Better Bodies about a new bumper.

One thing I like, before they ship my bumper out they will write my name on the bumper and test fit it to an 930/wide body car take a picture for my approval. Can't beat that.

A930Rocket 05-07-2008 05:52 PM

Sounds great. I've spken with the owner before and he's a stand up guy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMAN (Post 3930058)
Update... Getty will take the bumper back and refund shipping too, both ways. That's what I call customer service. I've been talking with Better Bodies about a new bumper.

One thing I like, before they ship my bumper out they will write my name on the bumper and test fit it to an 930/wide body car take a picture for my approval. Can't beat that.


BMAN 05-11-2008 03:11 PM

Here's a picture of Better Bodies rear bumper painted and installed. I'm very happy overall with it. I just hope the front will be the same.

http://hometown.aol.com/hlrbj/images...bumperrear.jpg

Rodsrsr 05-13-2008 07:06 AM

My Better Bodies Ft and rear bumpers bolted right on with no problems. It looks like your front bumper is too close, there is no room for the smile.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1210691173.jpg

BMAN 06-01-2008 04:27 PM

Update... Better Bodies came through as promised. I received the bumper a few days ago and got a chance to test fit it and couldn't be happier. The bumper is just held on with small C-clamps to test fit and for the pictures.

I got all the lights installed too but then the day with south when I dropped the left front driving light and broke it :mad: So if anyone has the lens for sale please let me know :D

I'll get the bumper off to the body shop this week.

I should of just got the front bumper from them in the first place and would of been done with this conversion.

Thanks again Robert and Armando at Better Bodies.

http://hometown.aol.com/hlrbj/images/new930bumper.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/hlrbj/images/new930bumper2.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/hlrbj/images/new930bumper3.jpg
http://hometown.aol.com/hlrbj/images/new930bumper4.jpg

A930Rocket 06-01-2008 06:27 PM

Is it an H4 or H5 headlight?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMAN (Post 3977422)

I got all the lights installed too but then the day with south when I dropped the left front driving light and broke it :mad: So if anyone has the lens for sale please let me know :D


BMAN 06-01-2008 06:35 PM

H4's with Hids...

http://hometown.aol.com/hlrbj/images/930hid.jpg

jbailey930 06-02-2008 01:06 PM

That wll be another nice addition to your 930 - good looking and weight loss - what else could you ask for.

Unfortunately I only have H1's due to upgrades.

best

911rudy 06-03-2008 08:55 PM

Bman what did you do for a heat sheld in the rear bumper? And did you install a shock bar to use the existing bumper shocks? I'm getting ready to install my C2 bumper. My front was a DP and it fit pretty well.

sand_man 06-04-2008 01:43 AM

That's gonna be nice, BMAN!


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