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kenikh 07-10-2014 03:50 PM

My New 1979 930 - yes, another introduction...
 
I've been around here a looong time, but finally decided I needed to fulfill the dream, take the 930 plunge or forever regret it. The car had been hiding in the back of the shop of a local mechanic for quite a few years. He finally decided it was time to part with it, to pursue other projects and I was lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time.

The car has seen better days, but is a good fit for the skills I bring to the table. The worst part of the car is the paint and body, which was (poorly) reshot in black over the (as yet undetermined) original color. One thing is certain, this car was sold in a color NOT on the factory option list.

Here are the pics today, of the car getting towed to its new home. While the car runs, the 3LDZ has been puking oil into the driver's side heat exchanger. I wasn't a fan of the idea of throwing up a James Bond scale smoke cloud on the drive home.

One of these days I'll post some pics of the car next to its three siblings, the '66, the '69S and the '80 targa. It is in good company. :)

Without further ado...

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._41_03_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._40_34_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._41_14_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._41_22_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._51_11_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._51_18_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._51_37_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._53_08_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._00_38_Pro.jpg

kenikh 07-10-2014 03:51 PM

A few more shots...
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._02_32_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._02_25_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._02_19_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._01_19_Pro.jpg

16Volt 07-10-2014 04:00 PM

Dude....you stole my car?

<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/looneys_on_the_lawn/14255039438" title="IMG_6993 by Shannon, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5498/14255039438_19f89000d5_b.jpg" width="1024" height="683" alt="IMG_6993"></a>

kenikh 07-10-2014 04:03 PM

^ Ummmmmm...I wish! Mine is the scruffy, down on his luck twin brother, at best. :D

16Volt 07-10-2014 04:26 PM

I do know my way around photoshop mind you.

You will have to sell me those wheels for super cheap. I cant have my scruffy twin slinking around town. :)

Congrats again. Nice to have another local 930.

Tippy 07-10-2014 04:55 PM

Nice! But what the heck are those two huge humps on the rear bumper?!?! ;)

dmg_dirtsquirt 07-10-2014 05:24 PM

Oooooh another Seattle car! Any interest in trading for a '87 3.2 cab?

Looking forward to the build thread

73T 07-10-2014 06:59 PM

If it doesn't have them already, your 69 S will be wanting those H1s! Nice car!

kenikh 07-10-2014 07:02 PM

^ I sold my last set from the 69S years ago. I had considered it...

If so, H5s or sugar scoops? I have both.

jsveb 07-10-2014 07:07 PM

Very nice!

Congrats.

3ldz you say, yet I see an aftermarket drip tank.

kenikh 07-10-2014 07:18 PM

^ indeed. Peculiar. Assumed a 3LDZ, but hard to tell on the car. Will know tomorrow.

kenikh 07-10-2014 07:26 PM

10 mins from Laguna Seca? You live on Laureles Grade, in Toro Park, Del Rey Oaks or over by York? You pretty much need to be right off 68...

jsveb 07-10-2014 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenikh (Post 8158225)
10 mins from Laguna Seca? You live on Laureles Grade, in Toro Park, Del Rey Oaks or over by York? You pretty much need to be right off 68...

You are close, but not there ;)

Between toro park and laurels grade off 68 to the south.

Where are you located?

kenikh 07-10-2014 07:49 PM

Seattle. Monterey High class of 92. :)

jwasbury 07-11-2014 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsveb (Post 8158199)
3ldz you say, yet I see an aftermarket drip tank.

Car also has later heat exchangers and muffler...generally regarded as a good thing vs. the '79 USA exhaust parts.

Congrats...'79 is the best year, but then I am biased.

kenikh 07-11-2014 04:32 AM

Yes, very pleased to not have to deal with the thermal reactor exhaust.

LuftWaffle 07-11-2014 06:06 AM

Congrats Kenikh. Any idea on the original color? What's the trim tag say? Where does the VIN place it in the production year?

kenikh 07-11-2014 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuftWaffle (Post 8158642)
Congrats Kenikh. Any idea on the original color? What's the trim tag say? Where does the VIN place it in the production year?

Paint tag is no longer with the car - I am waiting for the COA to determine the color. But it is definitely some sort of funky metallic red, as the color is still evident in the engine compartment. VIN is #521.

LuftWaffle 07-11-2014 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenikh (Post 8158652)
Paint tag is no longer with the car - I am waiting for the COA to determine the color. But it is definitely some sort of funky metallic red, as the color is still evident in the engine compartment. VIN is #521.

Bummer on the tag. Hopefully it turns out to be something like Sienna Copper Metallic! What's the interior like?

kenikh 07-11-2014 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuftWaffle (Post 8158695)
Bummer on the tag. Hopefully it turns out to be something like Sienna Copper Metallic! What's the interior like?

It might be - it looks in the ballpark - it definitely has "pinkish" hue to it which doesn't seem to lend it to Sienna Copper. I'll admit I have never seen Sienna Copper in person and recall it is a color that is hard to get right in photos.

We'll know eventually...I asked the COA folks to send me the paint code once they have the info pulled up, as opposed to waiting for the hard copy.

The interior is currently a black interior pulled from a 3.2 Carrera: power, non-sport seats. Original was sort of tan interior. Again COA will tell. I have correct mid year sport seats that will be going in this car very shortly.

Ferraripete 07-11-2014 07:54 AM

nice car and congrats. casis red possibly? a very, very cool color and I personally think these cars in odd but cool colors will be of more value!

krasuskyp 07-11-2014 08:14 AM

nice score - welcome to the insanity, and congrats!!

H1's FTMFW!

snorkels intact even... sweet

zaman fu 07-11-2014 08:30 AM

Nice car! Love those rims. But if I were you, I'd find some Fuchs and an original exhaust with thermal reactors so I could brag on the forums about how much resale value my car has.

pkabush 07-11-2014 08:48 AM

Nice find. Be interesting to see what the original color is. Did you buy it from John Walker?

16Volt 07-11-2014 09:13 AM

Pkabush, get back in the garage and get your car done so we can have our own west coast 930 gathering.

Jeff NJ 07-11-2014 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenikh (Post 8158717)
It might be - it looks in the ballpark - it definitely has "pinkish" hue to it which doesn't seem to lend it to Sienna Copper. I'll admit I have never seen Sienna Copper in person and recall it is a color that is hard to get right in photos.

We'll know eventually...I asked the COA folks to send me the paint code once they have the info pulled up, as opposed to waiting for the hard copy.

When you mentioned pinkish hue, that made me think of Carmine Red. Definitely a cool color if that is what it is. Later 930's came with that color option, but no idea about earlier ones.

kenikh 07-11-2014 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaman fu (Post 8158907)
Nice car! Love those rims. But if I were you, I'd find some Fuchs and an original exhaust with thermal reactors so I could brag on the forums about how much resale value my car has.

I have 16x7 and 16x9 Fuchs already - options are good. :D Thermal reactors...yeah, that's the ticket. :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkabush (Post 8158939)
Nice find. Be interesting to see what the original color is. Did you buy it from John Walker?

Yes indeed. Damned car had been sitting in the corner for years. He finally decided he wanted the space back.

kenikh 07-11-2014 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krasuskyp (Post 8158874)
nice score - welcome to the insanity, and congrats!!

H1's FTMFW!

snorkels intact even... sweet

Yeah...when I picked it up, John grumbled something to the effect of "should have pulled the damned headlights".

kenikh 07-11-2014 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff NJ (Post 8159130)
When you mentioned pinkish hue, that made me think of Carmine Red. Definitely a cool color if that is what it is. Later 930's came with that color option, but no idea about earlier ones.

EARLY Carmine Red is flat. That is the only Carmine that could be on this car, but the paint on this car appears to be metallic. I thought late Carmine was metallic, but cannot tell from the photos I've seen.

Early:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1405106340.jpg

Late:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1405106518.jpg

For reference, here's what was officially available, excepting "paint to sample" which was often an earlier Porsche color:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1405106926.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1405106962.jpg

16Volt 07-11-2014 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenikh (Post 8159215)
John grumbled something to the effect of "should have pulled the damned headlights".

I totally just read that in his voice.

kenikh 07-11-2014 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 16Volt (Post 8159305)
I totally just read that in his voice.

That is because I wrote it in his voice...

kenikh 07-11-2014 12:30 PM

Well, well, well...lookee what just showed up.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._27_28_pro.jpg

combatic 07-11-2014 06:08 PM

Carmine Red = Yes

Get that thing buttoned down so I can drive it ;)

kenikh 07-11-2014 06:34 PM

^ shut up hooker

Ukusto 07-11-2014 08:31 PM

Congrats Kenik - good looking car - you're gonna love it!
Thanks for posting the useful paint code table.
Cheers,

Iain

kenikh 07-11-2014 08:43 PM

BTW, you will probably be the first person outside myself and Bernie to drive it first, Bryan.

Back to the color. Took some shots today of the areas of the car that you can still see the original. My mechanic buddy (Bernie) is convinced it is a paint to sample color. Here are the shots:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._10_44_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._07_49_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._10_27_Pro.jpg

kenikh 07-11-2014 09:11 PM

A few other new details today:
  • The turbo in place was indeed a 3LDZ
  • The 3LDZ was NOT leaking - it is fine
  • The passenger side cylinder heads ARE leaking
  • The red painted brake calipers were sadly painted in high quality caliper paint. Even nasty solvent wont touch them.
The Ruf wheels are growing on me. They might stick around for awhile until I have nothing better to do than buy tires for my Fuchs and do a comparison. No hurry there. My DC15 regrinds are in process with Dougherty...might as well. Sadly, no LSD

As far as the oil leak goes, we'll have to dig into the heads and see if the guides are shot or if it is the valve stem seals that are shot. The Teflon ones don't leak, so if they are the old rubber kind, no wonder. If not, more money to Ollie's.

If the heads need to come off, do I do it? Do I:
  • Port the heads...and what spec?
  • Twin plug is a given...I have two Electromotive setups waiting to be used.
  • DC15s already inbound
  • Compression bump to 8.x using JE FSRs?

And that's before we get to the transmission, which is hopefully fine for the time being. Would hate to have to rebuild it right now and go to the added expense of finding an LSD to install with my newly acquired 8:41 R&P. :cool:

A few more pics:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._03_15_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._04_44_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._05_36_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._03_43_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._03_52_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._03_57_Pro.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7..._04_18_Pro.jpg

Oheggem 07-12-2014 02:53 AM

Love that car and i also love the wheels. Subscribed! :)

jwasbury 07-12-2014 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaman fu (Post 8158907)
Nice car! Love those rims. But if I were you, I'd find some Fuchs and an original exhaust with thermal reactors so I could brag on the forums about how much resale value my car has.

^:D

I have the original '79 exchangers, muffler, and wastegate plumbing. All you would need is the thermal reactors and you could restore this baby back to 100% bone stock...enjoy the car the way the factory intended, you know:p

krasuskyp 07-12-2014 05:42 AM

very cool

That color looks suspiciously like Justin's... which he'd believed is possibly called Ruby Red and was either one of a kind or one of very few. You tell me:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-p...0/DSC00807.JPG

shame someone shot it black (people suck - what a dumb thing to do) - would be cool to restore it to original someday

lots of new shinybits on thar, always good

Ruf's are great lookin on there... just heavy as heck.

and agreed, source some thermal reactors and enjoy a stock masterpiece! :D


ps. biitchin' hoodstrut lol...


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