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///Criss 08-25-2014 06:51 PM

How much power and how did you get there
 
I started this thread because I remember a gentleman named Lincoln and that he had a crazy 930. I want to know what mods you have and what power levels you achieved.
I'm researching what to do next. Thanks in advance!


Criss

Uncle 08-25-2014 07:05 PM

I'm just starting out with this current car so wanted to get a base line to work from. Right now it looks like this.

Stock engine.
Stock headers.
K27.
1 bar spring.
Andail intercooler.
Open chamber muffler.

287.4RWHP 487.3FtLb

Plans.
Headers.
Adjustable WUR.
Water/Meth injection.
MSD6AL.

I don't need huge numbers but 400RWHP is a nice round figure lol.

Everything is better with pictures so here is the graph.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ps03ae40bd.jpg

Norm K 08-25-2014 07:14 PM

I'd be curious where folks here think mine might end up after I finally get my engine finished. Short block is together - hoping to get cams installed and timed this weekend. Trying to be back on the road by October (fingers crossed)....

`80 930
K27 7200 from RarlyL8
RarlyL8 headers
Borla muffler
1.0 bar spring
SC cams
Twin Plug
EFI conversion w/3.2 intake
Full bay intercooler

I'm guessing somewhere in the neighborhood of 425(+?) whp.

Ronnie's.930 08-25-2014 07:26 PM

Boom (existing, six page thread on the subject linked below)! :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-930-turbo-super-charging-forum/367717-how-much-power-do-you-have-how-did-you-get-there.html

///Criss 08-25-2014 08:04 PM

Thanks Ronnie!!!! I searched a bunch but couldn't find it.

Let keep this thread going with new material!


Cheers! SmileWavy

Tippy 08-26-2014 07:47 AM

Not a 930, but......:

-3.4L, 7.5:1 CR P&C's
-stock Carrera 3.2 heads
-stock Carrera 3.2 cams (same profile as SC's)
-stock Carrera 3.2 intake
-1 5/8" headers/T4
-Borg-Warner 66mm turbo up to 1.3bar in 4th
-3" headpipe/muffler

Output: A LOT more than 431whp that the 60-1 HiFi turbo put out at 1.2bar.

TurboKraft 08-26-2014 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nkowi (Post 8231150)
I'd be curious where folks here think mine might end up after I finally get my engine finished. Short block is together - hoping to get cams installed and timed this weekend. Trying to be back on the road by October (fingers crossed)....

`80 930
K27 7200 from RarlyL8
RarlyL8 headers
Borla muffler
1.0 bar spring
SC cams
Twin Plug
EFI conversion w/3.2 intake
Full bay intercooler

I'm guessing somewhere in the neighborhood of 425(+?) whp.

The turbocharger will be holding you back. Best I've ever seen from a K27 is 455hp flywheel, all-in on a 3.5L on MODE's engine dyno. That would be about 395whp.
You'll need more compressor for your K27, especially at your altitude.
(Yup, can help you with that, too.)

Speedy Squirrel 08-26-2014 10:09 AM

You are pretty lean at max power. Be careful with your new car. Lambda over 0.92 is not so good. Better to take care of the enrichment, then add the 1 bar spring, rather than vica versa.
Quote:

I'm just starting out with this current car so wanted to get a base line to work from. Right now it looks like this.<br>
<br>
Stock engine.<br>
Stock headers.<br>
K27.<br>
1 bar spring.<br>
Andail intercooler.<br>
Open chamber muffler.<br>
<br>
287.4RWHP 487.3FtLb<br>
<br>
Plans.<br>
Headers.<br>
Adjustable WUR.<br>
Water/Meth injection.<br>
MSD6AL.<br>
<br>
I don't need huge numbers but 400RWHP is a nice round figure lol.<br>
<br>
Everything is better with pictures so here is the graph.<br>
<img src="http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/Martin_U/SMAYPRT1414082609070-1_zps03ae40bd.jpg" border="0" alt="">

Uncle 08-26-2014 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy Squirrel (Post 8231940)
You are pretty lean at max power. Be careful with your new car. Lambda over 0.92 is not so good. Better to take care of the enrichment, then add the 1 bar spring, rather than vica versa.

Yep. Agree 100%. We did one pull then got the car straight off the dyno. I stood to the side just looking at the Lambda meter as it was all I was interested in. Max power is neither here nor there at this stage, it was all about what's going on and what I need to do first because that's what baselines are for right? You need to now where you are before you move anywhere..
I got home and emailed Brian about an adjustable WUR before I did anything else. He has not emailed me back yet but I know he is a busy guy so it might take a few days.

Janusz1 08-26-2014 03:06 PM

This is what I've got:

•Complete Engine Rebuild
•3.4 Liter RUF Mahle P&C’s 7.5-1 Compression
•ARP Head Studs
•AASCO High Performance Valve job with springs and titanium retainers
•Ollies Machine Shop- Balance, rebuild rods, Crankshaft magnafluxed polished and heat treated
•911SC Cams
•Kokeln Ball Bearing Turbo
•Kokeln Intercooler
•Tial 46mm wastegate (1 bar)
•Nology Wires
•B&B headers w/heat
•B&B Exhaust
•Fuel Distributor enhaced
•New ERP copper oil cooler lines and thermostat
•New engine chains and rails, CDI box, Fuel Accumulator

No idea what the HP and torque are but I would be curious what would be the estimate.

I got this car 2+ years ago and it was with almost zero miles after all the work and I was breaking in the engine; original miles was 27k, now 36k.

Anyways, it has so much power then even big torsion and sway bars, custom Bilsteins, mono bushings , 17' big tires etc are not enough and suspension seems to be the weakest link.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1409094345.jpg

speednme1 08-26-2014 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janusz1 (Post 8232343)
This is what I've got:

•Complete Engine Rebuild
•3.4 Liter RUF Mahle P&C’s 7.5-1 Compression
•ARP Head Studs
•AASCO High Performance Valve job with springs and titanium retainers
•Ollies Machine Shop- Balance, rebuild rods, Crankshaft magnafluxed polished and heat treated
•911SC Cams
•Kokeln Ball Bearing Turbo
•Kokeln Intercooler
•Tial 46mm wastegate (1 bar)
•Nology Wires
•B&B headers w/heat
•B&B Exhaust
•Fuel Distributor enhaced
•New ERP copper oil cooler lines and thermostat
•New engine chains and rails, CDI box, Fuel Accumulator

No idea what the HP and torque are but I would be curious what would be the estimate.

I got this car 2+ years ago and it was with almost zero miles after all the work and I was breaking in the engine; original miles was 27k, now 36k.

Anyways, it has so much power then even big torsion and sway bars, custom Bilsteins, mono bushings , 17' big tires etc are not enough and suspension seems to be the weakest link.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1409094345.jpg

Should be over or close to 400hp..btw..add some 935 spring plates, should help your suspension keep you pointing straight

speednme1 08-26-2014 03:34 PM

410 whp.....by giving up my first born...lol
3.4L
twin plug
Motec M84
Ghl headers
Ruf Muffler
Ruf intercooler
Ruf 5 speed
GT35R Turbo
.8 bar boost(for now)
Custom cams cut to Dawe's Spec
Motor and suspension by Dawes Motorsport

Jimmy18E 08-27-2014 02:30 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1409177568.jpg

Getting close to being done, would like to break 400hp to the wheels.
Out of my 77 930, wanted to keep it a 3.0 because I thought it would be kool for lack of a better word.
- Chambone 70.4 crank (4 lbs lighter than stock), a work of art.
- pauther rods
- JE pistons with a true 7:65:1 comp
- LN Jugs
- 993 SS Cams
- Twin Plugged
- Extreme worked heads with 38mm intake & Exh
- K27/29 from Brian
- Brians Headers
- Turbo Craft intercooler that fits under my 3.0 tail plus their ported injector blocks
- 3.6 Turbo injectors with upgraded fuel lines
- Adj WUR
- Modded Fuel head
- Snow WMI (just for saftey, gets hot in S.FL)
- GT3 Oil Pump
- Case is shuffle pinned
-Light weight FW
- Re-Geared tranny, stock 1st and short on up with a 152 top at 7K
Kept the CIS which holds everything back, but like the old school stuff. Probably left something out but hope to break that 400 Hp number to the wheels.

kenikh 08-27-2014 08:02 PM

^ if your don't break 400, I'll eat my hat.

quattrorunner 08-27-2014 09:21 PM

Quote:

<img src="http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads23/Motor+Pic1409177568.jpg" border="0" alt=""><br>
<br>
Getting close to being done, would like to break 400hp to the wheels.<br>
Out of my 77 930, wanted to keep it a 3.0 because I thought it would be kool for lack of a better word.<br>
- Chambone 70.4 crank (4 lbs lighter than stock), a work of art. <br>
- pauther rods<br>
- JE pistons with a true 7:65:1 comp<br>
- LN Jugs<br>
- 993 SS Cams<br>
- Twin Plugged<br>
- Extreme worked heads with 38mm intake &amp; Exh<br>
- K27/29 from Brian<br>
- Brians Headers<br>
- Turbo Craft intercooler that fits under my 3.0 tail plus their ported injector blocks<br>
- 3.6 Turbo injectors with upgraded fuel lines<br>
- Adj WUR<br>
- Modded Fuel head<br>
- Snow WMI (just for saftey, gets hot in S.FL)<br>
- GT3 Oil Pump<br>
- Case is shuffle pinned<br>
-Light weight FW<br>
- Re-Geared tranny, stock 1st and short on up with a 152 top at 7K<br>
Kept the CIS which holds everything back, but like the old school stuff. Probably left something out but hope to break that 400 Hp number to the wheels.
This is a wicked cool list.
That is a fast fast car. Really cool.

Spenny_b 08-28-2014 03:19 PM

964 Turbo 3.3 --->

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...939263728D.jpg

Rebuilt to 3.4 using:

Omega 98mm pistons running 7.93:1
LN Cylinders
Stock Crank & Rods
Ported heads
12 Plugged with Denso Coil-on-Plugs, 4x Bosch amplifiers
Schrick valve train incl Ti retainers
964 N/A cams
Carrera intake
Siemens injectors
997 Carrera fly-by-wire throttle
Haywood & Scott SS exhaust system (but heavily reworked for...)
Garrett GT35R twin-scroll turbo
2 x Tial Wastegates
Tial BOV
TurboKraft full width intercooler
Sachs 997 GT2RS clutch assy
964RS SMFW
MBE Management running traction control, launch control, variable boost (may go for boost vs gear control)
Si-Leck management loom, full Raychem etc etc
2 x 044 fuel pumps

...plus a few things I've probably forgotten.

I have an idea what I'd like to see at the wheels....but who knows.....(apart from Chris!)

TurboKraft 08-28-2014 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spenny_b (Post 8235588)
964 Turbo 3.3 --->
I have an idea what I'd like to see at the wheels....but who knows.....(apart from Chris!)

Should surpass the blue Roadster Turbo, past 540whp on premium pump gas.

You running enough tire on this gem??

Spenny_b 08-28-2014 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboKraft (Post 8235705)
Should surpass the blue Roadster Turbo, past 540whp on premium pump gas.

You running enough tire on this gem??

Haha!....er.....:D

(probably not, but the TC will be turned up to 11!);)

///Criss 09-30-2014 09:01 PM

Ok,
I have the following:
Stock engine
Fabspeed Long Neck IC (to be installed)
BB Exhaust (On Car, No Cat)
K27 7200 (To be installed)
Going to get headers (Rarely L8? BB?) (To Be Installed)
Adjustable WUR (On car already)

What should I expect and is there any recommendations?

Tippy 10-01-2014 08:09 AM

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You running enough tire on this gem??
At what boost????


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