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Running boost gauge off brake booster?
Was randomly looking at threads on here. Wouldn't mind installing a larger boost gauge.
Figured I would have to run a hose from the motor to the dash, a pain. There are several threads on here that say you can run the boost/vacuum line off the brake booster??? Is that even possible??? I can't believe that the brake booster sees pressurized air from the path of the turbo... I always thought brake booster was powered by engine vacuum. What am I missing here? Is there a way to add a larger VDO boost gauge that doesn't need to rerun a pressure line to the motor? |
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I'm pretty sure I have a check valve on my Carrera 3.2 to not pressurize the BB.
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Yes absolutely, NHS (North Hollywood Speedometer | NH Speedometer) has an adapter kit that they sell with their VDO clock replacement boost gauges. Very simple install and works great.
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There ya go.. you got the correct answer in the post above and learned something in less than 20 minutes.
If the master cylinder takes a dump and fills the brake booster with brake fluid.. then it's a problem. Had an E21 BMW do that many years ago. |
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You can find the correct MC check valve with additional nipple to plug the gauge from our host in the 924 section.
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that's where mine is plumbed in. I have a RUF boost gauge plumbed into the booster hose. I actually think it was T'd inside the car where it comes out of the tunnel.
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Tee'd into the NHS brake booster check valve with the 8mm ID vacuum hose fitting is an easy install and it gives the car a new brake booster check valve at the same time. They're plastic and don't last forever.
A piece of 5/16" or 8mm inside diameter fuel line around 4 feet long secured with hose clamps will comfortably reach from the special brake booster check valve to the back of a VDO/NHS mechanical boost gauge mounted where the clock goes in a 911 dashboard while you're holding it in your hand before pressing it into the rubber ring in the dashboard. A little vasaline or silicone grease smeared on the rubber ring ID or OD of the boost gauge will let it slide into the dashboard easier. |
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The web link doesn't show an adapter?
Is there a diagram or something? I still don't understand the physics of it... Are we saying that on a 911 the brake booster is powered off the pressurized intake??? Most cars function off vacuum, not pressure, no??? Still confused... |
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The brake booster is not designed to work under pressure, only vacuum. When you boost a car, you need to put a 1-way check valve so the line leading to the brake booster never goes over ambient atmospheric pressure.
Once the 1-way check valve has pressure put on to it, the valves close shut so you don't potentially rupture the brake booster diaphragm. Last edited by Tippy; 05-12-2017 at 05:13 AM.. |
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I teed into the brake booster line right where it comes out of the tunnel on the inside before it goes into the frunk. I have an Autometer vac/boost gauge and a 14point7 data logger that it feeds.
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Mine just tees off manifold vacuum to my boost gauge and to the map sensor attached to my lm2. Is this wrong or just different?
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Nothing wrong, does the same. I feed my MSD MAP sensor in the engine compartment off the line to the dizzy that comes off the big T on the front of the TB, one side goes to the dizzy, other to the WUR.
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Mine is T'd off the booster with no check valve
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