Totally lost with the seal kits

[ZOA NOM]

How in the hell do you figure out which O-ring or washer is which when you get a half dozen bags of assortments within a larger package?

I'm driving myself nuts trying to match all these different pieces to the pictures in Wayne's rebuild book, and it just seems to be an endless pit of despair. The numbers on the "assortment" bags are apparently Victor Reinz part numbers, and don't cross to anything in Pelican. I'm left with looking at the Appendix in the rebuild book, and sifting through all the tiny packets to see if anything sorta looks like it, and if the number required matches the number I can locate throughout all the packets I have.


Wayne, put the kits together with all the pieces that are shown in the rebuild book Appendix. This is a mess.

[BURN-BROS]

Go ahead and organize all the pieces, then post some pics of the items you are having problems with. It may seem like a bunch of bananas but its not that bad once you have squared away the easy stuff.

[911pcars]

It's easier if you can group them by size, then count how many you have which should match whatever needs to be sealed (e.g. crankcase through bolts/nut need, what, 24 O-rings? I never counted).

Aaron's idea might be easier.

Sherwood

[ZOA NOM]

Good idea, I'll post pics as I go. It might be a good thread to use as a reference.

[Dadofour]

Keep in mind that the gasket kits include parts for multiple years of cars so you will have extra parts when you are done.

[ZOA NOM]

Okay, here's an example of a problem I'm having. This bag is unopened, and came out of the Victor Reinz "Head Set" kit. It appears to have several exhaust gaskets, an oil pump o-ring, and an assortment of washers. WTF?



and then there's this one that appears to have an Intermediate Shaft cover gasket, and yet more assorted washers and o-rings. It came out of the same Head Set kit.

[Eagledriver]

I think what I do is just find the gasket/O-ring that I need at each stage as I assemble the engine. When I need the O-ring for the number 8 bearing for example I rummage through the kits until I find an O-ring that fits.

I recommend buying green viton o-rings for the case through bolts. SSF has those although Pelican may, I haven't checked.

-Andy

[Henry Schmidt]

Common sense prevails in these circumstances.

Generally if it makes sense it's close enough.
You might try sorting the rings and counting them to determine their proper application.

I.E.: 2 cam feed line fittings plus 2 oil tube plugs and 2 banjo bolts with 2 rings on each = 8. Find 8 seals that fit and look the same.
8 chain ramp bolt = 8 sealing rings and so on.

[ZOA NOM]

Good advice, all. It just seems like it would be a nice feature for Pelican to group these kits in the order they're used in the book. It's my first go-around, so I'm sure the next time will be much easier.

[len911]

I usually bag and label sub-assemblies when taking things apart. Then I go back and compare new hardware with old. Breaking the new parts into same sizes and bagging them in ziplock bags should help also. BTW, I think the kits come prepackaged from manufacturer. Lou

[ZOA NOM]

That was what caused the concern initially. I did bag and label all the disassembly items, and I assumed that the new packets were pre-sorted for specific parts of the project, so I didn't want to separate a bag, thinking I was using something I would need later. It looks like I'll just have to pick through everything as I go and then order the stuff that isn't left in any packet.

[mede8er]

Uh Oh....just ordered this same kit.....

I'm subscribing....Thanks....

[euro911sc]

I noticed that Pelican sell single o rings and parts like that. A lot of them actually have pictures so you may be able to look at the catalog, see the part you should be finding, and find it in the pile of schtuff

At least that's what I'll be doing shortly as I'm in your shoes as well...

Best regards,

Michael

[cab83_750]

Well, count me in as "+1 Confused" as I have the 'bags.'

As recommended, common sense might help us newbies. My problem is that after 80+ hours of rebuilding an engine:

1. I go to my workbench.
2. I look into the parts tray.
3. Then I find 30+ left over parts l
4. Then I say, "Holly Crap!!!! Did I miss installing a critical item?"

[dfink]

I have laid under my car every night trying to figure out where that sump plate gasket goes that came in my kit.....

[euro911sc]

Originally posted by Dadofour
Keep in mind that the gasket kits include parts for multiple years of cars so you will have extra parts when you are done.

You WILL have parts left over... no matter what you are building...

-m

[mb911]

Originally posted by euro911sc
You WILL have parts left over... no matter what you are building...

-m

yup my victor reinz kit had extra case through seals=26

so there will be extra

I think the wright-wood kits are better and in hindside I would have bought that kit instead..

[cab83_750]

Originally posted by euro911sc
You WILL have parts left over... no matter what you are building...

-m

I would probably disagree.


I think this is actually my issue. Except for building an engine, my other project kits (such as building a crib, a workout bench, a bicycle, etc.) never have extra parts ---- everything is accounted for!

[Henry Schmidt]

Funny thing, I just built two office chairs and both kits had extra parts???

It is not uncommon in this fast food, out sourcing, one size fitting all world, that a gasket kit, even for a Porsche will be designed to fit more than one application.

That is why we only use Wrightwood Racing gasket sets. They are made for your specific application. Right down to port size and intake variations.
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[Steve@Rennsport]

Originally posted by Henry Schmidt
Funny thing, I just built two office chairs and both kits had extra parts???

It is not uncommon in this fast food, out sourcing, one size fitting all world, that a gasket kit, even for a Porsche will be designed to fit more than one application.

That is why we only use Wrightwood Racing gasket sets. They are make for your specific application. Right down to port size and intake variations.
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Right on, Henry,...

Wrightwood gasket sets are all we use, as well. The quality is much better than Victor Reinz and you "all-Viton" your selections, too.