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Engine Froze on start up. Ideas??
After putting 1000 miles on my freshly rebuilt 930 engine, I pulled it out for clutch work, fuel mods, and valve adjustment. Everything worked fine when I pulled it. It took me about 6 months to get everything done, and back in the car.
Because it had been sitting, I primed the engine to build oil pressure. I followed everything in Wayne's book, and it turned over fine and built oil pressure. I did a final inspection, and everything looked good. I hooked fuel and spark back up, and proceeded to start the car. As it tried to start, I heard a metal on metal sound, and the engine froze. The starter could no longer turn the engine. I tried to turn over by hand, but it wouldn't budge. I know your not supposed to turn the engine the opposite way, but I tried it just to see if the crank was frozen, and it turned nice and smooth. I then turned it the correct way, and was smooth until it hit a certain point then froze. I drained the oil, and it is clean. I also pulled all the valve covers, and the cams were still turning. I tried to go through the firing order this evening to see what cylinder it is, but now the engine is completely frozen (both directions). I am thinking I dropped a valve, but the engine only had 1k on the clock, with very easy driving. Also if it was a valve wouldn't it occur when the engine is under load? The heads were completely rebuilt by EBS Racing. Any ideas what could be going on other than valves? I am trying to rule everything thing out, before I have to pull the engine again... Thank you for your help in advance!
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What happens when you pull all the plugs?
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It sounds that a bore-scope could be very helpful in the days to come. Hope you find the problem. Good luck!! Tony.
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Since you did clutch work I'd start there. Maybe some bolts were too long or some kind of pressure plate or throw out bearing interference.
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I pulled all the plugs, it rotated easier, but still hit something.
I was thinking a bore scope as well. I doubt it is the clutch, I did check it, and it does not seem to be the problem. b/c it turned over fine when I was building oil pressure, something must have broke...
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Betcha you lost a valve seat. Back rotate the engine until it stops. Then use a screwdriver and carefully (don't let it bind) Check each piston for upward movement. If all move then use a compression tester on each cylinder and then prepare to pull the cylinder that shows "0". But you might pull all valve covers first and examine the rockers. A bore scope would be better. Good luck.
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