Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > 911 Engine Rebuilding Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: NE Pennsylvania
Posts: 160
82 won't run

I have an 82 911 with 59,000 miles that will start, but not run. It sat for about 5 years without being run. I have cleaned all the lines from the accumulator to the tank plus the return line, changed the tank, fuel pump, Lambda box, red fuel pump relay. When I manually move the lever in the fuel distributor with the lines to the injectors disconnected fuel will flow to each injector.

I have not changed the two small relay boxes that are mounted next to the Lambda box. I don't know what they are called and how to order them.

I connected a test light to the positive and negative wires at the fuel pump. The light will not show any power to the pump no matter what position the key is in until the engine starts. Once the engine starts the light show power to the pump. The power will remain until the motor stalls which is within five seconds after it starts. The engine starts with no problem and restarts with no problem. It just won't run after it starts.

I have a manual by James Weber "Solving CIS problems" and in the trouble shooting chart he states only three possible problems. 1. ECU (which I assume is the Lambda box) 2. Control relay (which I assume is the red fuel pump relay) 3. Fuel distributor.

I have a chance to purchase a used cis from an 81. Will the fuel distributor interchange.

Someone must have the answer.
fnsarno@aol.com

No success so I did some additional testing. I have no power at the coil when the ingition switch is in the run position. While the engine is cranking and runnning for about 4 seconds I get approximately 3 volts to the coil. Any suggestions.


Last edited by ssrodder; 02-18-2009 at 02:50 PM.. Reason: additional information
Old 02-15-2009, 05:22 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,107
Take a look at the wiring diagram. The fuel pump is powered by one circuit when the key is in the Start position and another when the key is in the ON position. There is a safety switch on the airflow sensor that is designed to stop the fuel pump if the engine stops running with the key in the ON position. The easiest way to test the circuit is to lift the air sensor plate with the key ON and listen for the pump. If the pump circuit is OK, your engine is probably stalling due to a lean condition at cold start, a common problem on old SC engines with lower compression, vacuum leaks, and out of spec fuel pressure. You need a CIS pressure gauge and a dwell meter to diagnose the problem. Your car also has a vacuum retard to help meet the curb idle HC test that can cause cold start stumbles and stalling. Remember to leave the throttle pedal alone when starting, you can only make the lean condition worse and cause a backfire. I would try disconnecting and plugging the grey vacuum hose to the back of the distributor, this should give you a bit more cold idle and may keep the engine running. Once it stays running, hook up an analog dwell meter to the green white stripe wire on the test plug and see what the CIS lambda is doing. It will talk to you, all you have to do is listen.
__________________
Paul
Old 02-16-2009, 03:20 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Nash County, NC.
Posts: 8,480
Under the red relay, jumper wire post #30 to 87A and you should get fuel pump running.
The numbers are on the back of the relay.
Bruce
Old 02-16-2009, 05:12 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 12,612
Garage
Fuel pump test.........

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flat6pac View Post
Under the red relay, jumper wire post #30 to 87A and you should get fuel pump running.
The numbers are on the back of the relay.
Bruce
Only if the ignition switch is @ ON position.

Old 02-19-2009, 05:28 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:41 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.