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Lapkritis 05-04-2013 04:36 AM

Things stay hotter when polished though ... any anodizers in town? A nice mil spec black keeps things cool but pricey. ;)

bcgreen 05-04-2013 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Aurel (Post 7419878)
Got my cases and oil cooler back from the cleaner. They had a little ultrasonic bath:

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I would like to ask you, where do you find what the crankcase bolt and nut torque specs are? I know if I bought a book I would find it there, but I am sure it is somewhere here on this site, but I having a difficult time locating the numbers. Mine is a 2.7 RS engine.
Thanks

Aurel 05-04-2013 04:54 AM

Bcgreen,

I highly recommend that you buy Wayne's book. As an alternative, you should also learn to use his websites search function ;).

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-engine-rebuilding-forum/155442-what-torque-value-case-through-bolts.html

Aurel 06-14-2013 08:55 PM

Here is a bit of update on my project:

I got a very very nice std/std used crankshaft, thank you Tom!
Unfortunely, some unforeseen events are going to affect the rebuild: I got news Tuesday that my job is being relocated form Albuquerque to Billerica, MA (our main R&D center). I have to move by August 31st, and will be very busy both at work, and at home selling the house and looking for a new place. I am very concerned that if the car is not running by then, it will be a big issue to move it to MA. Which puts the pressure on me to start the rebuild process, but I do not want to feel rushed into something that was supposed to be a hobby, and do a botched work as a consequence.

So should I just pack all the parts and figure out how to ship everything, or try to have it running in two months? My relocation package is very generous and will ship cars, but a car that cannot move by itself is a problem...

What is sad is that I was really looking forward to driving the 911 in New Mexico, but never really got a chance, having been here only two years (and the spun rod bearing problem started in New Jersey).

I am still very blessed if my only worries are about my toy, when so many of my colleagues have been laid off. Sorry for the very limited technical content of this update.

efhughes3 06-15-2013 05:01 AM

I'd view it as a project you may have to pay a bit more to move. Seems to me there is value in that, and that won't cost that much more than a moving vehicle. People buy expensive project cars all the time, and move them across the country.

Having built two 911 motors, and having just sold and bought houses 6 months ago, I wouldn't want to tackle the engine when getting ready to move. Move the car, and break in your new garage when settled!

Lapkritis 06-15-2013 06:14 AM

Billerica - welcome to the neighborhood. Are you familiar with the area? The differences between communities is huge, very significant etc. I'm sure you already are but take your time and choose wisely... the best house in the worst neighborhood trap is prevalent here.

I commute through on the 3 one day a week normally to my office in Waltham. Living further north now.

bcgreen 06-15-2013 09:42 AM

[QUOTE=Aurel;7422473]Bcgreen,

I highly recommend that you buy Wayne's book. As an alternative, you should also learn to use his websites search function ;).

I understand the other book is the Bentley book, but which is the better one, and will either of these cover my '76 ROW. Because this engine is so different that even the picture of my clutch adjustment area is not one I have seen anywhere here or on the internet. In this case Wayne's book would not be helpful.

Aurel 06-15-2013 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lapkritis (Post 7499645)
Billerica - welcome to the neighborhood. Are you familiar with the area? The differences between communities is huge, very significant etc. I'm sure you already are but take your time and choose wisely... the best house in the worst neighborhood trap is prevalent here.

I commute through on the 3 one day a week normally to my office in Waltham. Living further north now.

I am looking into Westford or Chelmford. Also looking into New Hampshire, nice houses and some good school districts. I have been there a few times, but I lived in NJ previously. New area for me to discover.

fred cook 06-16-2013 02:16 AM

Old family home.........
 
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Originally Posted by Aurel (Post 7500375)
I am looking into Westford or Chelmford. Also looking into New Hampshire, nice houses and some good school districts. I have been there a few times, but I lived in NJ previously. New area for me to discover.

Small world, my Great, Great Grandfather, Great Grand Father and Grandfather all lived in the Chelmford area. The family slowly moved south, first to Richmond and then later to the Atlanta area. I have continued the trend and now live in South Georgia near Florida. Good luck with your house hunting and move to your new home.

Aurel 06-16-2013 09:43 PM

[QUOTE=bcgreen;7499863]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurel (Post 7422473)
Bcgreen,

I highly recommend that you buy Wayne's book. As an alternative, you should also learn to use his websites search function ;).

I understand the other book is the Bentley book, but which is the better one, and will either of these cover my '76 ROW. Because this engine is so different that even the picture of my clutch adjustment area is not one I have seen anywhere here or on the internet. In this case Wayne's book would not be helpful.

Wayne's book covers 65-89 years, I do not have the Bentley but Wayne book had all I needed for my rebuild.

Robey5 06-17-2013 10:03 AM

Pack it and ship it!
 
Aurel:

I would suggest keeping your (current) pace at putting the engine back together.

I would not want to rush the rebuild, that is how mistakes happen. I would then box it up as much as you can and ship it to the next house when it is time to move. You will have a car in pieces shipped a ways, so make sure things are packed up nice for the journey.

Now that you are going to have a new house, perhaps you can negotiate your way into a hoist and bigger workshop for your car!

Aurel 08-23-2013 06:34 AM

Hi Pelicans,

Sorry for not updating this thread more often, but i have been very busy selling the house, buying a new house in Westford MA, with a nice 2 car garage to keep working on the 911.

I still managed to make some progress on the rebuild. I basically sealed the case with a new crank and bearings in it, using Henry Schmidt sealants and recommendations. I installed the cylinders with new rings, bolted the heads-cam towers back on (which I never disassembled). I did not time the camshaft yet, followed Robeys advice and packed everything for shipping. The longblock will travel on the engine stand in the moving truck. Stand should be secured on blocks so it does not move during the trip. I hope the movers will find my idea reasonable...they will be here Sept. 4-5. Some pics:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1377268388.jpg
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Smoove1010 08-23-2013 07:17 AM

You've got quite a juggling act going on there - a rebuild and a relo at once - good luck.

Just my opinion, but I would support the front of the long-block against the base of the stand with a 2X6 or other beam/post etc. I've got a mental image of the stress that each bump in the road will impart on those two mounting studs in the back of the case. There's going to be an awful lot of potholes, bumps, and general bouncing around between the southwest and New England, and there've been a few threads recently of engines being dropped due to stud pull-outs or other damage even when properly mounted.

Both of your rebuild threads inspired me when I did my top-end, I'd hate to see you meet with more misfortune (and rebuild #3!)

Have a safe journey,
GK

docrodg 08-23-2013 08:55 AM

Personally I think I would rather just get some lumber and build a nice custom crate for the motor. Would be cheap and I would save tons of money on the prescriptions for anxiety meds I would need worrying about it till it got to MA.

JFairman 08-23-2013 09:33 AM

I would find a wood pallet, take the motor off the stand, and strap it on to the pallet with inexpensive harbor freight ratcheting straps or whatever for transport.

I think shipping it like that is asking for expensive problems but if you do good luck with it.

Aurel 08-23-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JFairman (Post 7617887)
I would find a wood pallet, take the motor off the stand, and strap it on to the pallet with inexpensive harbor freight ratcheting straps or whatever for transport.

I think shipping it like that is asking for expensive problems but if you do good luck with it.

I think I am going to follow your advice, guys. I was also worrying about the studs snapping off during transport...

Aurel 08-23-2013 10:15 AM

I just got myself a pallet from shipping & delivery. This is the nice part about working in a manufacturing facility:) Will stop at harbor freight for some straps and should be set to go.

TibetanT 08-23-2013 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoove1010 (Post 7617642)
You've got quite a juggling act going on there - a rebuild and a relo at once - good luck.

Just my opinion, but I would support the front of the long-block against the base of the stand with a 2X6 or other beam/post etc. I've got a mental image of the stress that each bump in the road will impart on those two mounting studs in the back of the case. There's going to be an awful lot of potholes, bumps, and general bouncing around between the southwest and New England, and there've been a few threads recently of engines being dropped due to stud pull-outs or other damage even when properly mounted.

Both of your rebuild threads inspired me when I did my top-end, I'd hate to see you meet with more misfortune (and rebuild #3!)

Have a safe journey,
GK


I couldn't help but think the same thing about all the bumps, hills, and corners involved with travelling along the road!!

Good luck with your move, Aurel.

BTW, is that a piece of wood used to hold up the chain? Good idea.SmileWavy

Aurel 08-25-2013 06:29 AM

How's that?

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Lapkritis 08-25-2013 08:19 AM

That's more like it. :) good luck with the move. You'll be here just in time to enjoy the fall foliage season.


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