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Can you post a fresh link to the part - the ones above go to a page that doesn't show the tool. I think pelican have upgraded their parts system - on loading up the page I had to indicate mine was a 3.2 Carrera - I don't know if the pages are hiding the tool from me now as a result.
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The Part number is PEL-VALVELASH; Pelican Parts - European Automotive Parts and Accessories - Porsche • BMW • Mercedes • Volkswagen • Audi • Saab • Volvo • MINI
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JJ 911SC - Thanks Man! I've been so busy assembling tools that I haven't had time to visit this page in a few days.
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linky no worky The first link on the thread takes you to page 3 of the camshaft stuff on pelican. Gone through all 5 pages in that category and the tool isn't there. The link posted above isn't recognised by pelican - pelican advises me to search for whatever I'm looking for I was just curious as to how much it costs but as I can't find it I won't know.
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Just type in PEL-VALVELASH in the PP "Search our site:" box. $85
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Got my tool on order today- I'm sure to be the envy of all of my friends! (Well, maybe my friend Steve W will roll his eyes and wonder why a simple feeler gauge wouldn't do the trick, but hey- I'm an idiot when it comes to these things!)
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For those that used the tool, is it easy to see the dial when adjusting valves engine in car? Meaning you can easily see it for all valves or are some cylinders harder to see the top of the dial? Just curious.
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Having just checked valve lash for the first time with a feeler gauge, I must have one of these! Will be on my next PP order!
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So after setting my 500-mile valve clearances with the Kirk tool, I have to say that while I think this tool made the job easier than using the traditional method, it still wasn't a walk in the park... if only I had three hands (one to hold the tool securely in place, one to work the lock nut on the rocker and one to keep the dial on the tool from moving) I think I could say the process was truly easy in spite of the cramped quarters under the car (I don't have access to a lift). Maybe if the tool had a spring clip that would slip over the lower edge of the rocker at the dial end to hold the tool securely in place during use?
Not having a lot of experience with how the feeler gauge clearance resistance should feel, I do feel that I was able to achieve greater accuracy in setting the valve lash than I could have using the front-side feeler gauge method, and I do NOT regret buying the tool. The tool definitely makes the job easier, but not easy. YMMV. Curt
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Have just ordered mine - and with a little bit of planning, I'm going to be in Boston next week...Pelican shipping to my hotel....$40 shipping (to the UK) saved!....now, what else can I order to make use of my trip to the US?....Hmmmm.....[/scratches chin]
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Any chance we might get a video of it in action?
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+3 on the video! Here is the new link: Porsche 911 (1974-1989) - Cylinder Head & Valvetrain - Page 4
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Kirk;
If I may make one suggestion and not be arrogant. If you would make the screw driver head and the locator hood the same length it would make life a lot easier. Having the screw driver flat inset in the locator hood only makes life difficult in the use of your tool. For those of us with minimal thread engagement it is very difficult to set the tool even outside the engine compartment. If the two were at the same level you would still get the locator hood to engage as you are always down to the depth of the screw slot. I hope this makes sense to you as I love the tool but found it difficult to utilize even with the engine on the stand as I have minimal thread engagement with new cams and reconditioned rockers. As the flat blade is inset I get very little engagement on the elephant foot screw slot when trying to adjust the valves. If the blade was to be even with the locating hood then you would, or should, always have full engagement of the blade and the adjusting screw. Again I hope that I am making sense here so that you may improve on a great concept and make the tool even more useful and easier to utilize. ( Possibly the best solution is to have the blade protrude the same length as it is presently inset.) Best regards
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Thank you for your suggestions. During the prototyping of this tool, the collar (cylindrical piece that surrounds the driver bit) was made flush with the tip of the bit blade as you suggest. What I found was this made the initial location of the driver bit to the adjusting screw somewhat difficult, especially in cramped areas in the engine compartment where "feel" of engagement is necessary. By allowing the collar to extend past the driver bit, this allows the tool to pilot on the adjuster screw, then rotation of the knob will index the bit blade into the slot of the adjuster. I fully understand what is happening in your situation with reground cams and resurfaced rockers - there is not sufficient protrusion of the adjustment screw above the rocker to allow the bit to engage. I will modify your tool for no charge if you will send it back to me...I'll take care of return postage too. On the enclosed instruction sheet is my e-mail address. Please let me know if you're interested and I'll forward my mailing address to you. Regarding a video - I'd like to get my 911 up on my friends lift and show how this tool is used on the engine rather than on a rocker arm held in a vise. Will make a real effort to get this done soon as I've had lots of requests. Thanks to all for your valued comments, suggestions and compliments.
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Thank you for the generous offer. This shows the true worth of purchasing from trust worthy suppliers that stand behind their product. As I am out of town for a few months on business it is difficult for me to accept your offer at present. I don't think that it is that big of a deal for me to modify the tool myself. I don't want to bother you with such a trivial thing as this. Once again thank you for your offer. It just goes to show you what an upstanding person you are and are willing to listen to feed back from your customers. Regards;
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Dave,
The idea is not new, I've had a 36-degree screwdriver for a long time and use it for every valve adjustment. The new 36-Degree Valve Adjusting Tool - Rennlist Discussion Forums But your tool seems to be very nice and the price is reasonable. |
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I built that screwdriver ![]() This is the first tool that looks like an improvement, though I do wonder about having to hold it in place... I love to see the innovation.
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dkirk;
Just an update to this thread. When I got back in town I simply ground off a few thou from the cylinder to just shy of the screw driver head. This allows me to now locate the adjuster screw with the screw driver head and still be located within the cylinder. this now allows me to adjust the valves with no problem. Thanks for a great product.
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