Rebuild Tools - Couple Questions

[SonomaPete]

I'm organizing all my tools for the engine assembly stage of rebuilding my '69 911E 2.0, and working from a preview copy of Wayne's engine rebuild book. Couple of quick questions:

-- In the book, there's mention made of "Porsche Tool P140, used to hold cylinders". Does anyone know what this is / where to get it? Can find no mention of it in a search of Pelican Parts or using Google.

-- Oil Seal Installation Tools. These are listed for sale on Pelican Parts for about $225 for a full set. Can anyone advise on whether these are a worthwhile purchase? I'll buy 'em if so, but want to ask first. Worth asking also, does anyone have a used set they want to sell / rent?

-- Anyone know where you can order Curil-T online?

-- Anyone know if there's a meaningful difference between "Permatex Black Silicone" (mentioned in the book) and what Pelican sells, "Permatex Orange High Temp" (Pelicanparts # 81422)?

-- Any know where I can get "rod holders" (also mentioned in book)?

Thanks in advance for any advice or thoughts. --Pete

[ChrisBennet]

The P140 cylinder nuts are available from Engine Builders Supply, Stoddard and Stomski Racing. The Stoddard ones I've used barely work so I would avoid those.

I have the seal installers but you don't really need them. You can install both seals before assembling the case or at least I have.

Silicone is fine for sealing leaky windshields but I can't imagine where you would use it on a 911 motor.
Maybe Permatex has a web site with the specs?

Competition Engineering has Curil-T. I'm curious, where would you use it on a 911 motor?

If you have friends, you don't need the rod holders. If you don't have friends EBS also sells rod holders.
-Chris

[SonomaPete]

Wayne recomends using the Silicone in a couple places -- for example, on the outside of the o-rings on the case through-bolts -- as added protection against oil leaks. Same for the Curil-T -- on the case where the flywheel seal mounts plus a couple other places.

Thanks for your tips on where to track these down...

--p

[ChrisBennet]

Originally posted by SonomaPete
Wayne recomends using the Silicone in a couple places -- for example, on the outside of the o-rings on the case through-bolts -- as added protection against oil leaks. Same for the Curil-T -- on the case where the flywheel seal mounts plus a couple other places.

Thanks for your tips on where to track these down...

--p

If you order the Curil-T from Competition Engineering, ask them what they think of using Silicone on the O-rings and let us know. I only use DowCorning 111 on O-rings. It's Silicone but it doesn't harden.
-Chris

[J P Stein]

Tho I haven't seen Waynes book, I would imagine he is talking about silicone GREASE for O rings.

[Kevin G.]

When rebuilding my 2,2 I stretched short bungee cords threaded through the rod ends and hooked to the front and rear of the case for rod holders. Worked fine for me, and the elastic property allowed for rotating the crank while working without the rods hanging up on the case.

[SonomaPete]

hey, that's a very clever idea -- I'm going to do it.

[ChrisBennet]

Originally posted by Kevin G.
When rebuilding my 2,2 I stretched short bungee cords threaded through the rod ends and hooked to the front and rear of the case for rod holders. Worked fine for me, and the elastic property allowed for rotating the crank while working without the rods hanging up on the case.

I used rubber bands but bungees might work better. In case there is some confusion, the "rod holders" hold the rods upright so you can lower the case half down over them.
-Chris

[Doug Zielke]

Pete....

"In the book, there's mention made of "Porsche Tool P140, used to hold cylinders". Does anyone know what this is / where to get it? "

Just use a short piece of plastic or aluminum tube, slip it over a head stud, and then, thread a head nut down on top of it.

"Oil Seal Installation Tools. These are listed for sale on Pelican Parts for about $225 for a full set. Can anyone advise on whether these are a worthwhile purchase?"

I thought of buying these, but you can easily tap the seals into place if you are patient.


"Any know where I can get "rod holders" (also mentioned in book)?"

Use your imagination and make your own from a few strips of light gauge sheet metal.

[cstreit]

Homemade Rod holders...

[MotoSook]

Don't forget that special factory approved string for the chains.