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				Front end greasing question
			 
			I did a search and can't seem to find anything, but I seem to have read somewhere about the front end tele or paralever setup needing grease once and awhile.  I haven't climbed up inside to look around, but does anybody know of grease points? I've developed a sort of clanky feeling/sound when the front end gets to a ground level change as I'm pushing the bike out to the street....Hard to describe, but it just feels like it needs dampening.  I just replaced the shocks front and back and was careful to torque them in right, but the sound was there before and still is now with the new suspension in place.     
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|  07-21-2005, 05:38 PM | 
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			That sounds like a problem I had recently. The leading link to ball joint nut needed to be retorqued. No more clanking.  jm 
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|  07-21-2005, 07:44 PM | 
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			Chris,  The noise that you are hearing could be the front disks. If you grab hold of a front disk with you hand and pull it back and forward you may hear the elusive sound. The wave washers that apply sideways pressure to the disk eventually tire and let the disk rattle. Cheers, Frank | ||
|  07-21-2005, 09:55 PM | 
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			Thanks for the tips--I'll check those all out this weekend... SCFlyer has the culprit I think...although I've never checked the discs on the front, only the wheel assy while the front end was up and free and I felt no play.  The feeling I'm getting seems to be related directly to vertical movement only, btw...I forgot to say that before.
		 
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|  07-22-2005, 05:40 AM | 
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			I noticed a slight amount of freeplay in my balljoint/telelever joint. I retorqued  and all is well. Sit on the bike, apply the front brake and try to roll fore & aft. If you feel a pop or hear a noise check the joint nut.
		 
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|  07-22-2005, 06:06 AM | 
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			I've heard tha the two pivot points where the telelever mounts to the engine are super difficult to get on/off and are basically to be left alone unless you're sure there is an issue. - Mark | ||
|  07-22-2005, 07:29 AM | 
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			True, but the balljoints can definitely loosen and should be torqued. I too leave the arm pivots the heck alone. Worth checking top shock mount too, as there is rubber in the stack, which compresses a tiny bit over time. 
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|  07-22-2005, 07:35 AM | 
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			I had my S apart down to it's knickers just recently (OT; If you're in there and are planning on dragging mo' powah out of it, DO replace the clutch with something that won't slip under brutal treatment) I pulled the swingarm as part of this job. Actually, the front is just about identical to the rear paralever pivot, and to me, it was easier to deal with. the concept is the same, a fixed and floating pin setup that you torque to spec. (taking the floating pin out is a snap if you use a slide hammer with a 6mm bolt as the pulling attachment) When I had the swingarm in my hand, I examined it; the bearing has a seal on the OUTSIDE side, but not the inside, so I used grease on my fingertip and greased the bearings, and it looked like they could use it. just my $.02 
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|  07-22-2005, 07:40 AM | 
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			Oh, oops we're talking telever pivot arm, not paralever...my bad. I'm still curious, and think that proper lube and torque would be a good thing to check here as well.. 
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