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BMW Motorad Junkie
Join Date: May 2004
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Power Commander for R1200S?
Does anybody make a tuning box for the R1200S yet? I'd like to get rid of the just off idle stumble my bike has.
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Ask your dealer to upload an update if you don't have the latest version. The bike shouldn't stumble off idle.
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So, I take it there are no tuners yet for the R1200S. Correct?
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I've actually sent Power Commander a mail asking the question. Apparently the power commander cannot handle the two oxygen sensors that our bikes use. From their e-mail it almost sounded that the ECU handles it as two separate systems...
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There is also this module, the Rapid Bike:
http://www.rapid-bike.org/html/beispiel_bmw.html the bike shown is a R1200S And this is a dyno of a R1200S with QD exhaust and Rapid Bike installed: http://gs-fun-factory.homepage.t-online.de/R1200S%20L%20QD.PDF?foo=0.3350410749737354 Almost 10hp increase!!! The dyno's show a lot of power differences between the R1200S; from 112 till 118 rwhp. Here are tuning examples: http://www.m-tec.org/html/r1200s.html Hugo |
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…a few of ‘us’ over here ride around with a RapidBike box fitted…
…and we all say the same… …better performance… …better fuel economy… …I had my doubts, as most of ‘us’ did ; but it is truly worth the investment… …example : a Dutch guy with a K12R, with twin air-filters (instead of the standard one), a full Laser Power-Cup exhaust, and a RapidBike : result 161,2 rear wheel HP… …and that is a lot… …don’t know exactly how much more HP my R12S gained, and frankly I don’t care. Top speed wasn’t (isn’t) my goal, but engine smoothness is. And with such a RapidBike box engine smoothness improved enormously…
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Robert, Is the map preloaded, or does the bike bike need to be set-up on a dyno? What is the availability of someone with experience with this system setting up the map?
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Bob, what gains did you get with the manipulated version of the PCIII? Would you recon it is worthwhile and your opinion of long term disatvantages for the bike?
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So, anyone with the chip getting better than my 45mpg?
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Yes, I get 45 + riding 2 up here in Wisconsin. I get 48+ riding 2 up with luggage while touring out west.
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Guys...Can you take this discussion elsewhere? I dont care if Santa Claus sells tuner boxes..I just want to buy one and make an informed decision when I do so. What does the Rapid Bike box cost? Is there a discount to Pelican members?
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Thanks Bobby! Do you know if Power Commmander is working on a box for the R1200S?
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Put me on the list...depending. I still just wanna know if the surge at 5500 rpm is the best it can be or not. My concern is that the surge could be hiding a dip in power below that point that shouldn't be there. I'm a winner either way as it's more power than I know what to do with in stock trim.....but as one of our Pelican bro's says...but maybe "I can make it better."
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Thanks for the research. Please put me on the list as well. What is involved with the install of this thing? The website is no use unless you have a password.
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I had spoken to Ken at Evo a while ago and they were only going to offer the Rapid Bike as a "shop only" install. They felt it was a more involved install?
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Robert;
Thanks for letting the cat out of the bag!! It's a cool setup much better then the Power Commander ! ![]()
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We Have to Stop This!
Over and out! Best!
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thanks
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Thank you for your kind assistance
Greetings Roger,
This is a tech board and not a soap opera. It is in our best interests as a tech board that Bobby and I never interact again. Thank you for moderating this issue. As usual, you do a great job. Enjoy the summer. Best from (on a sailboat) the Cheasepeake Bay near Ocean City.
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