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Bling fitment issues - need help pls

I have some fitment issues.

1) The first is the PUIG, which I had to flatten out so it fitted into both sides of the front fairing (it comes narrower than the old screen)
I wonder if that will cause it to crack due to stress? Anyway that bit on the front looks ordinary and the sides don't fit snug.
I remember that some people got the Dremel out and made theirs fit better - any advice? I don't want to chop it up and make a mess!



It doesn't fit too good there you can see the gap between the edge of the fairing and the screen. The lugs don't fit properly either and what is the plastic hose for?



2) Ilmberger Belly Pan. I can't get the left hand rear attachment to attach without it interfering with something, have I fitted the other points to the right spots? You can see where it would like to go with my finger but do I need to get a longer bolt and a nut? the side stand rubs on the pan if I put it there and I think the gear lever catches it too.






3) Rear HPE Carbon shroud. It looks like it wants to sit under the rear fairings nice and snug but it wont. Is this how they fit? It's a bit ill fitting.





Kieran I know you said to ask if I had any problems but I thought I'd do the asking all in one hit, with the screen as well.

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Chewie;
My Puig is not quite as ill fitting as yours..........anyway....... I just left mine. The rubber hose is for the edge of the screen on the riders side. I think they were trying to make it look like my "S" fairing on my '82 R100S..........but it did not look good.........so I just left it off.
I can't help with the belly pan or the exhaust shroud.
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Chewie;
For the left side belly pan mount.........why not use a longer bolt....install a nut....then a washer.......the mount arm........another washer.......then another nylock nut? Would that put the pan in the correct position?
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Jon ,

I just got the missus to go out and have a look at my exhaust shroud and apart from reporting snow(in bloody October),

She also reports a gap similar to yours around the shroud so I guess thats how they fit ( probably to pass a bit of cool air around between the CF and the Muffler ).

Sounds like the weathers going to be rough around your way by her report , good time to be in the shed sorting out that screen and Belly pan (of which I am very jealous but can't have as I don't believe it fits with HPE headers (Thats what I keep telling myself))

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With regard to the Puig screen, I'd sent it back.
I think you should be concerned about stress on the fairing nose if you had to flatten the screen to fit. The mounts that use the spring clips to hold the screen in place are molded into the fairing are not very thick at all. With the low aplitude shaking the fairing gets at idle, I'd be concerned about cracks/separation in that area.
Your HPE pipe shroud looks just like shreddr's. I think that's the way it fits.
Can't help with the pan-sorry.
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I'm sorry to say the can and shroud doesn't fit correctly. It's the same with shreddr's and mine, really anoying. My can never use to go high enough and the cb shroud just looked weird. I had to work on the lugs of the can and that helped but the cb shroud is just ill fitting I'm afraid.

As you can see I've managed to get the can flush with the rear light, but the shroud, hmmmm : (

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chewie you have gotten a few answers here already. regarding the belly pan, the left rear mount goes on the same bolt as the shift lever. you should have gotten a longer bolt AND a spacer and a locknut (bolt, spacer, belly pan flange, locknut). when you hook it up there the front will line up. the can shroud is a mystery, perhaps they weren't meant to touch for fear of fouling the stock paint. I was unhappy with mine as well, I showed it to my classic car afficianado brother who said "remember the 10 foot rule" if it isn't a glaring flaw you can see from 10 feet nobody notices but you because it's yours. claerly there could have been some better fitment on the can shroud, but it is 1000 times better looking than the stocker in any case and really transforms the rear of the bike. I guess i will live with it.
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I spaced the shroud between the exhaust and itself and got it to look like above. it does take some time but it can be done.
The belly pan should have a longer bolt, it was frozen on my bike and could not get it off. I never mentioned it because some guys are pretty kitted out so you will need to get one and nut.

Cant help you with the screen but I had the same screen and no issues.

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Chewie,
My Puig screen fits exactly the same as yours. That's the way they're supposed to be. Because I got the smoked out model, it isn't quite as noticeable perhaps, but I would not send it back. That's one of the best mods on my bike IMHO. Also, the tabs don't fit exactly like the stock. The clip did not want to lay down exactly like the stock screen, but only on the left side rear clip, just like in your picture. I recall I did a little dremel tuning on it, but it still looks like yours. Can't help with the other bits, but you guys have some nice looking bikes there! I've been wanting a set of those injector covers to hide all the ugly wires and cables to the throttle bodies. Where'd you get em?
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I have some fitment issues.

The first is the PUIG, which I had to flatten out so it fitted into both sides of the front fairing (it comes narrower than the old screen)

I wonder if that will cause it to crack due to stress? Anyway that bit on the front looks ordinary and the sides don't fit snug.

...this is what I wrote a while back...

regarding the Puig screen
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My Puig was about 1 1/2" off and I called them to figure out what's wrong... they said to stretch it in... that has been 2 years ago and the bike has seen hard use and lots of riding and now a crash by John... the puig is still fine.

Just don't stretch it in in the cold, Jon...

Can you guys not move the can a tad more forward?... Just wondering whether there is room to play... my Akra didn't have a shroud, so I don't know.
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Thanks Ken, but is there a U.S. distributor? I've not tried ordering parts from the EU. I guess I've been scared off by tales of long waits to clear customs, etc. I've got the same issue with Magtan wheels. It seems you can only get them from Japan and I can't read their website, let alone conduct an order. Man, I sound like a real baby
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I have some fitment issues.

1) The first is the PUIG, which I had to flatten out so it fitted into both sides of the front fairing (it comes narrower than the old screen)
I wonder if that will cause it to crack due to stress?
Possibly.

Mine has cracked down the middle after 600km (400 miles). Puig will not acknowledge it other than to say it must be the result of me using an inappropriate cleaning product Nothing but warm water on this bike. Seems like they have arrived at the perfect stock answer. Absolves them of any responsibility without enabling the customer to prove or disprove anything. A real pity as I liked the look and performance a lot.

RoLoo also experienced cracks but other have not. I guess it's hit and miss. Not sure if I'll try again or go with an MRA windscreen. The MRA is a bit more robust (thicker) and is reported to fit better.

On performance... yes the turbulence region was changed dramatically and with the Puig installed the ride is silent and turbulence free.

Having said all that, mine went on easier than you describe and the clips actually fitted pretty well without any trimming. I was satisfied with the spacing and general fitment. If by "flattened to fit" you mean you spread it an extra half inch or so overall ... then me too.

Even that may have contributed to my crack but I did notice an imperfection in the mould when I received mine and the crack occurred right along the imperfection. It should be a warranty item in my opinion if there is a warranty. Puig won't tell me either way and they are deucedly difficult to communicate with. Three months and 6 emails to get a paltry response.

I did install the plastic tubing along the top edge of the windscreen. As mine is the dark-smoke version, it looks good and actually looks more "complete" installed as opposed to leaving the knife edge open to the elements.

Nice bit of kit, that Ilmberger. I have their hugger. Beautiful.

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Thanks Ken, but is there a U.S. distributor? I've not tried ordering parts from the EU. I guess I've been scared off by tales of long waits to clear customs, etc. I've got the same issue with Magtan wheels. It seems you can only get them from Japan and I can't read their website, let alone conduct an order. Man, I sound like a real baby
Given that ordering from the US or from Europe is about the same hassle for me, I opted for buying my hugger from Sandbar Composites in England (official Ilmberger distributor there). Shipping was low-cost and fast. Nigel (Sandbar) is a stalwart of the Boxertrix site. I have also swapped emails with Julian Ilmberger himself and have found that total costs direct from Germany are very competitive and you have the added benefit of establishing a relationship with the factory if warranty were ever to be an issue (highly unlikely IMHO).

Having a chat with Julian and then ordering from the recommended US distributor is probably the best route for you but research is always worthwhile.

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Thanks all for the responses.

Looks like I will have to buy a longer bolt and spacer etc for the pan.

Surprised by the ordinary way these screens fit - not gonna send it back though because it's from the US and will probably just cost me money and grief. I will send an email or something to PUIG about it. Eeny- the cracking on the screen is pretty suss. Obviously the people at PUIG dont think that there would be a group of BMWR1200S riders out there comparing notes...and posting their fitment results on an International forum.

DOn't know about pushing the shroud back - have to re-drill holes and stuff. Still looks alot better - but again I am surprised that it's not 'just right' to begin with. Maybe they signed off on the prototype without looking at it properly, then they did a run and we get the dodgy shrouds. If I had paid retail to get one of those shrouds I would be pretty unhappy.

Oh well - all in all she is getting closer to a full shreddrization, just a couple more things and she's there

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Went for a spin today. Riding along for a bit, it became apparent that the new screen was not doing any sort of job of getting the air out of my way, noisy as hell! ... then I realised I hadn't put my ear plugs in

The air hits me in the head now instead of the chest. I didn't take the OEM for comparison.

Here's some shots. Much better from behind and an improvement overall for sure.





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