Phillip Island 1st Day Test Times - Page 5

wswartzwel · 03:27 PM

Hey Ralf.. I saw one like that at my shop Friday... Had dents and dings and autographs on it... What a sweet bike.

signit98 · 03-01-2010, 03:27 PM

Yup... he's been on the Dempster, too... and the Dalton.

wswartzwel · 03-01-2010, 03:47 PM

Here is one of his adventures. He rides solo.... it gets better each page.
33 1/3 N C S - ADVrider

smallj · 03-01-2010, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by signit98

Jim, I hope they are making progress as well, but for now it does not look like it. Corser seemed to have the same issues he had last year and Xaus's issues have just simply magnified... while he might be good for Press intros, he does not have what BMW needs. Consistency.!

Corser also stated that in race two the bike was sorted enough that he could actually race it instead of tip-toe around the track trying not to crash. Corser is obviously good at PI, but so are other guys who did not manage to crack the top 7.

Bob Hancock · 03-01-2010, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by roger albert

Sounds like mind-reading to me Bob, as I didn't get that at all. Just because someone isn't rabidly pro-bmw, doesn't mean they're betting against them, or ought to be off being a fanboy elsewhere. Since it's not just a BMW forum, but a TECHNICAL forum, such actual informed opinion is totally welcome. Shame there isn't more of it.

Shame he has to take flack for being realistic.

Chris has always shown a negative view of BMW, Roger. I don't care enough to do a search, but I doubt very seriously if you can find anything but naysaying on his part. He's basically the opposite of "rabidly pro-bmw" or "fan boy" terms that you and some like to use. So maybe we should stop using these labels?

Anyway, for me this is a BMW forum as it's the R1100S that brought me here and the R1200S that has kept me here. So if it just becomes so multi-dimensional that the marque is consistently panned, then it's not worth my time regardless of how YOU define the forum.

signit98 · 03-01-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Hancock

Anyway, for me this is a BMW forum as it's the R1100S that brought me here and the R1200S that has kept me here. So if it just becomes so multi-dimensional that the marque is consistently panned, then it's not worth my time regardless of how YOU define the forum.

Technically, Bob it is the 1100s/1200s forum and following that, it would exclude us from talking about the GS, HP2S, S1000RR and some other BMW's as well...

I don't mind discussing other marquees, if it happens (like it usually does) in the context of discussion a certain type of bikes and the activities involving said bike. In this case the S1000RR. Not allowing to do that is like censoring... I think in the past 8 or so years, we've had enough of that.

If you are looking for one-dimensional, you might want to turn your back on the internet in general. I for one, however, would miss your humor and the insight you so frequently offer.

As for Chris, however biased his viewpoint may be, he does offer good insight as well. Well educated on the topics and with solid foundation, I might add. I appreciate it and don't mind a critical undertone.

If I become Mr. America, I will fight for world peace...

roger albert · 03-01-2010, 08:42 PM

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regardless of how YOU define the forum

Check the actual name of the forum Bob. Technical. It's built right into the name.
And was before I ever even heard of this forum.

Chris just seems to have been realistic about how the teams fare.

Again, totally welcome. Much nicer than cheerleading.

Sofatester · Sofatester's Garage

...just wonder what a round-the-world-travel-1200GS has to do with Philipp Island World Superbike World championship 1st day test times

Guest24 · 03-02-2010, 03:01 AM

I do marvel at this because most on this forum have rejected the idea that you can just change the channel and be in the HP2S/S1000RR room for the same thing you have in the R11/12S TECHNICAL forum. This forum is REALLY more of a chat room for those of us who own or owned the R11/12S at one time. Hell, it's even into photography. Get real Roger. It's called Darwinism.

Bob Hancock · 03-02-2010, 04:04 AM

Just to set the record straight.....I never have proposed censorship on this forum or any other. Nor do I advocate this being one-dimensional. Maybe you guys are into the same mind-reading I am accused of.

The double standard appears to be the anger I've seen against cheerleading which is about as harmless an activity as can be. So Roger prefers Chris' constant pragmatic BMW bashing from his educated viewpoint. Good for you.....I just get as tired of that as you do the cheerleading. So we'll have both....which is fine. I'll just reserve my right to comment on the one-sided comments from across the pond....label them for what they are and deflect the moderator hammer as best I can. That's all.

When I become King of the World I will outlaw instant grits and fight for the right of cheerleaders to wave their pompoms.

cageyar · cageyar's Garage

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Originally Posted by Bob Hancock

When I become King of the World I will outlaw instant grits and fight for the right of cheerleaders to wave their pompoms.

Please ban grits of any kind.
Thank you.

roger albert · 03-02-2010, 04:30 AM

Fair enough Bob. Funny thing is, I don't see Chris bashing BMW much. But to you pom-pom types, not waving pom-poms with you, IS bashing, so you see everything as bashing.

And there's no double standard. People get sick of cheerleading when this place is nominally and notionally technical (which implies objectivity). Some folks just post reality checks and stick to the facts, so, they get bashed for bashing. Ridiculous. When I'm king, pom-pom wavers will be forced to eat instant grits.

Guest24 · 03-02-2010, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cageyar

Please ban grits of any kind.
Thank you.

That's BULL!! Grits am good fer ya.

Bob Hancock · 03-02-2010, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by roger albert

Fair enough Bob. Funny thing is, I don't see Chris bashing BMW much. But to you pom-pom types, not waving pom-poms with you, IS bashing, so you see everything as bashing.

And there's no double standard. People get sick of cheerleading when this place is nominally and notionally technical (which implies objectivity). Some folks just post reality checks and stick to the facts, so, they get bashed for bashing. Ridiculous. When I'm king, pom-pom wavers will be forced to eat instant grits.

You miss the point again, Roger. But that's typical so I won't try to explain again.

Grits....they are corn afterall. Like popcorn? Anyone who doesn't like grits has never had good grits. There really is a difference.

EZ-RIDER · 03-02-2010, 04:52 AM

Grits and Sweet Tea

roger albert · 03-02-2010, 04:56 AM

Good eye rolling Bob. Very adult and constructive.

signit98 · 03-02-2010, 05:13 AM

Remember?

WORLD PEACE!

Dr. Curve · 03-02-2010, 07:00 AM

To Bob and other fellow "Gritors." Growing up as a very young child, I stayed at my Papa's house which had neither running water or electric service and of course, they had no car. Still......all of the memories there are golden to me now. One thing that stands out was the type of breakfast we often had. My favorite was when Granny, cooking on the wood burning stove, would put together a "good morning" meal of fresh Bantam eggs whose yoke was always a orange/yellow red, slow cooked fresh water fish roe that she panned in butter lightly till dry and taunt on the outside, rock ground yellow grits that were not all exactly equal in size and which took about 30 minutes to cook, of course her made-from-scratch biscuits, were not perfectly shaped ones like people eat now........but their "um-mm factor" was top of the chart.......cane-syrup, clabber in cup, and fried hand sliced white side bacon, were on the table as well if someone wanted. Blue Berry and Quince Jelly plus wild (from a tree) honey were always close by. To this very day......yellow stone ground grits, fresh pan fried fish roe, and free range chicken eggs for breakfast remains number one for some of us who are seriously from the deep American South.

Chris Canning · 03-02-2010, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Hancock

And you are obviously happy about the latter opinion. Maybe you should be on the Kawasaki site cheering them on? Or is just being a fan below you?

Bob

Why should i be obviously happy??, first and foremost i'm a motorcycle racing fan,i've seen it on the inside,but prefer it on the outside,with a balanced unbiased opinion,i'm no more pro BMW than i am Yamaha/Kawasaki or anyone else,what i certainly am is a realist,on paper the Kawasaki have a better pair of riders than BM,bike wise i don't think there is anything in it,the BM is faster,but Suzuki have been faster than everyone else for years,doesn't mean a thing,as all the racers say,'It's all about the package

Guest24 · 03-02-2010, 09:43 AM

Meanwhile back at PI. Chris, I finally sat down and watched the race on Speed. Cameras in the wrong place, not enough time spent in the pack where the real racing was going on, lots of lowsides. No reruns of the earlier warm-up where Haga gets knifed in the back by Crash Xaus. SBK needs to come up with a season pass for those who don't want to just see the editors version of a motorcycle race sandwiched in with the bizillion commercials. I'll check the final standings in October.