rear wheel.

MrFeldman · 08-04-2010, 11:59 AM

Will a 5.5" rear wheel off an '02 Boxer Prep w/ out ABS fit an '03 R1100s w/ ABS?

Chris Canning · 08-04-2010, 01:18 PM

No.

MrFeldman · 08-04-2010, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Canning

No.

Please explain, other than the little circular ABS ring
Mounted under the rotor,what's the difference?

Dr. Curve · 08-04-2010, 02:23 PM

Yes.

twodear · twodear's Garage

I'll risk with an answer of more than one syllable and let the sparks fly where they may.

I think that, other than those from the GS, final drives on all R series bikes from 1999 to 2005 were interchangeable. The GS had a different transmission casting and swinging arm, so I'm not sure the final drive was the same.

I personally changed over from some year R1150R to my '99 1100S and everything bolted up okay. The 1150R had ABS because the brake disk with ring and ABS sensor was still in place. I swapped over to the non-ABS disk from my 11S and plugged the hole where the sensor went. All was well.

You'll probably need to swap the brake mounting disk over as it has the mounting for the ABS ring.

GotRoad? · 08-04-2010, 05:34 PM

the difference between the ABS and non-ABS systems as well as the early (thick & cast) and late ABS (thin & stamped) sensor rings is the spacing of the brake rotor relative to brake caliper...the bolt pattern is the same. Some rear drives have a spacer washer to account for the difference in the thickness of the ABS rings. I bet that you won't have much problem fitting up a new fat wheel.

bikerfish1100 · 08-05-2010, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by twodear

I'll risk with an answer of more than one syllable and let the sparks fly where they may.

I think that, other than those from the GS, final drives on all R series bikes from 1999 to 2005 were interchangeable. The GS had a different transmission casting and swinging arm, so I'm not sure the final drive was the same.

I personally changed over from some year R1150R to my '99 1100S and everything bolted up okay. The 1150R had ABS because the brake disk with ring and ABS sensor was still in place. I swapped over to the non-ABS disk from my 11S and plugged the hole where the sensor went. All was well.

You'll probably need to swap the brake mounting disk over as it has the mounting for the ABS ring.

Flaming begins NOW.
Final drives, for the purpose of Mr. Feldman's question, are all the same- the bolt pattern is consistent, and will allow wheel swaps. On the original question, yes, you can do it, but you wont have ABS.
However, our R11s (production date up to 02/01, anyway) have the speedo sensor inserted into the final drive. I think only the R1150R does that (maybe)- all others seem to have their speedo sensor somewhere else.
so- wheels can readily swap, but final drives not so much.

Chris Canning · 03:55 AM

The mounting stubs that the disc(rotor) mounts on are machined to allow for which ever ABS ring you have on the bike,hence why you cannot fit a non abs wheel(because they are longer) on an ABS bike.

You can do it the other way,and i have,as the ABS wheel has shorter mounting stubbs you can space the disc accordingly,as i said i ran an ABS wheel on my non abs bike for some years,but to do it the otherway would mean having to have the mounting stubbs machine down to allow for the ABS ring,early versions are a lot thinner than the latter ones.

bill pierce · 08-06-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFeldman

Will a 5.5" rear wheel off an '02 Boxer Prep w/ out ABS fit an '03 R1100s w/ ABS?

Rich,

If your looking for a 5.5" wheel call me. Looks like I'm going to be parting out my bike. Just too much damage from the deer strike.

bikerfish1100 · 08-06-2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bill pierce

Rich,

Looks like I'm going to be parting out my bike. Just too much damage from the deer strike.

shame to hear that Bill.

On the bright side....................... NEW BIKE!!

Dr. Curve · 08-06-2010, 01:57 PM

The disc is simply off center in the caliper, with one pad being further out that the other..........but still clears the casting which holds the pucks.

bill pierce · 08-06-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bikerfish1100

shame to hear that Bill.

On the bright side....................... NEW BIKE!!

Yes, but probably not until spring

I'm still not sure what I want. Maybe r12r

Chris Canning · 08-06-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Curve

The disc is simply off center in the caliper, with one pad being further out that the other..........but still clears the casting which holds the pucks.

Been there done that,with anything less than a brand new pad in one side and worn one in the other it won't work(the thick abs ring is 4.5mm),when all bolted up(with good pads) it'll be locked solid,of course if you have an ABS wheel which had the thinner ABS ring(so it has longer mounting stubs),pad wise you'll get away with slighter more on one pad and less on the other,just make sure you have a supply of single worn pads so you can replace the one side.

And before fitting any other BM wheel have it checked to see if it's straight,i haven't forgotten buying a spare wheel,had it powder coated and then went to have a tyre fitted,I know the tyre guys well as friends,they were highly amused when it was put on the balancer,the comment i got got apart from the usual P taking,'We get loads in like this very few are straight'.

I see there is one comment suggesting that wheels were all made the same and non abs wheels had their discs(rotors) spaced,I don't know if that is true,maybe with later bikes,you would have to confirm that, but certainley not with the early ones.

Dr. Curve · 08-07-2010, 05:22 AM

I agree Chris. It will not work perfectly........but it will work. I have not made this conversion because I have plenty of wheels that are the right ones. If a person wanted to convert and have the disc in the center of the pucks the best thing to do is to is remove the caliper and shim or face the mounting hole area so that the fit is further from the ABS wheel. By doing this you will have converted the bike so that it can use either wheel. When the regular non-ABS wheel is needed you would reshim to size at the caliper mounting and when the ABS wheel is needed you can just bolt up and go. All of this is a lot of trouble and I agree with you, Steve, and others that a ABS will not fit perfectly on a non ABS rear............but it will fit and the bike can be converted to make it work perfectly. Too much trouble IMO, however.