Ordering Spiegler Lines - Some Advice, Please

[Don Ro]

'Just spoke with a fellow at Spiegler who said over 'n over again that they would not guarantee the fitment of lines because I'm removing the ABS.
I told him to just pretend that I don't have ABS and go from there.
He balked again and again.
Should I just order lines as if I don't have ABS?
I know to order 2" longer front line from MC to wheel to accommodate bar risers.
Just wanting to avoid drudgery, etc.
Thanks.

[ForBell]

such a speedy response from fellow pelicans.
the answer is to order as if you don't have abs.

[BadToTheBown]

Also consider if you have the late (2005?) BCR forks. I believe they were GS length (longer). If you have 365mm paralever (shorter) link in the back, you need to consider that too for the rear line. If you have the stock 385mm length, the line will be shorter. Hope this isn't confusing.

[Rapid Dog]

hmmm...what risers are you using?
Having remove the ABS, not sure how that plays in.
Might find some help here, worth a read: Low Bars

[blackduc238]

Measure and give them the lengths. You can change to superbike if you want or keep it as is. Also check how the banjo connects and check their site so you can let them know. I think on their site they have a custom lengths section that you can follow.
I had to do the same thing on one of my race bikes when I swapped out the fronts. Easy peasy

[Don Ro]

Originally Posted by Rapid Dog

hmmm...what risers are you using?
Having remove the ABS, not sure how that plays in.
Might find some help here, worth a read: Low Bars

Rapid D...
I have the BMW bars above the clamp - are those the "comfort bars"?
I also have your bar risers.
I asked for 2" longer than stock lines...should I ask for longer?
Thanks.
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ps They won't be ready for a few days......I can call them back.

[Don Ro]

Just put my order on hold...will wait for the Pelican wisdom to appear.


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BTW, it's the '99 with abs...BMW high bars w/Randy's bar risers.
Soon to be w/o abs.

[bradzdotcom]

Originally Posted by Don Ro

Just put my order on hold...will wait for the Pelican wisdom to appear.

suggestions, comments, sympathy and advice.

wisdom?

are you SURE you're in the right forum?

[Don Ro]

Originally Posted by bradzdotcom

suggestions, comments, sympathy and advice.

wisdom?

are you SURE you're in the right forum?

I'd guess that I could at least count on some humor from you, Brad.
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According to RD's site, 3 1/2 inch increase in length works...given what I have on my bike.

[JimMoore]

I'd call Tom Cutter at the Rubber Chicken Racing garage. He's a Speigler dealer, a long-time BMW mech, and an R1100S owner. He probably knows more than any human on this earth about your question.

[Don Ro]

Just emailed him. Thanks for the tip.
I just ordered a cam chain tensioner upgrade kit from him two days ago.

[Lentz]

It's very easy. You can do cut them with a hacksaw if needed although I use and air compressor and cut off tool.

You can find some pictures and directions online. There is one trick though. For the first end you do, you can screw the nut onto the fitting.

For the second, in order to avoid twisting the line, screw the fitting into the nut. I.e. turn the fitting while holding the nut with a wrench. I usually stick a large diameter chisel through the banjo and I've never buggered one up. However, a piece of plastic is better.

You can buy a 3/8" piece from online metals.

Buy some hose and fittings. It will be cheaper and from now on you'll be able to do anything you want to do!

[Suds]

Mr Schumann had Galfer build him a set for his R1100S, I phoned them and they sent me the same set with the front hose at 20.5 ". 3 lines for the front and 1 line for the rear that eliminates the solid pipe. Fit perfectly. I think the part number is D218-4

[iminspaaace]

I ordered a set of Spiegler lines without realizing I had Suburban bar risers. I ordered the stock (non-ABS) length. If I were to do it again, I would get them an inch or two longer, but it's not terribly tight even at full front fork extension. Not enough to make me worry, much less replace them. I'd say 2" longer than stock is fine, if you are deleting ABS.

[Don Ro]

Originally Posted by iminspaaace

I ordered a set of Spiegler lines without realizing I had Suburban bar risers. I ordered the stock (non-ABS) length. If I were to do it again, I would get them an inch or two longer, but it's not terribly tight even at full front fork extension. Not enough to make me worry, much less replace them. I'd say 2" longer than stock is fine, if you are deleting ABS.

So you had your BMW bars above the clamp as well as Suburban risers?

[Don Ro]

Just spoke w/Brian @ Spiegler...he agreed, 3" longer line.
Better to have a bit of slack than not long enough.
I'll see how it goes.
Thanks gents.

[Lentz]

If you build your own at some point, it's a good idea to put clear shrink wrap over the lines to keep the steel braid from rubbing the finish off anything they come into contact with.