aboutDurametric 5&6; enthusiast vs Profeesional Kit

[kx9862002]

Durametric 6 enthusiast version will not allow us to do "coding".


If I do not want to add or remove any module, or disable the seablet chime, is that necessary for me to purchase a Pro kit?


anyone has an experience with this? much appreciated

[harryrcb]

Just from research I believe the only difference between the two is the pro has unlimited cars you can work on the enthus is limited to 3 vehicles by vin.
BTW I just ordered my enthus.. version

[kx9862002]

Originally Posted by harryrcb

Just from research I believe the only difference between the two is the pro has unlimited cars you can work on the enthus is limited to 3 vehicles by vin.
BTW I just ordered my enthus.. version

no.... the rule only applys on previous version (version 5)

[harryrcb]

Originally Posted by kx9862002

no.... the rule only applys on previous version (version 5)

Ahhh - I stand corrected, seemed to have missed that point

Question: What is the difference between the Enthusiast kit and the Professional kit?
Answer: In Durametric version 5, the difference is the number of cars the kit allows you to work on. The Enthusiast kits are limited to use on 3 cars - managed by VIN, not model. The Professional kit has no limit to the number of cars on which it can be used. With the introduction of Durametric version 6, the Professional kits alone gain the ability to perform Coding changes on supported control units.

[Wayne 962]

I believe that the AutoEnginuity software allows you to do coding without any restrictions.

-Wayne

[mattatk]

What exactly is 'coding'? To activate the ABS to bleed the brakes, for example, does that require coding?
Cheers in advance

[harryrcb]

Originally Posted by mattatk

What exactly is 'coding'? To activate the ABS to bleed the brakes, for example, does that require coding?
Cheers in advance

Question: What is Coding?
Answer: Coding is the ability to change predefined editible settings on control units that support the option. Settings typically include those that localize the car for a particular market (e.g., the language or units of measure displayed on the instrument cluster) or enable or disable car variations (e.g., with our without chronometer, LED lights, etc...).

[harryrcb]

Originally Posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts

I believe that the AutoEnginuity software allows you to do coding without any restrictions.

-Wayne

Wayne how does autoenginuity compare with durametrics as far as functionality ?

[mikefocke]

Poking around the AutoEnginuity site tells me there are two different levels and the user's guide for Porsche is dated 2007. Only 6 pages (compare to Durametric's 29 pages). OBD2 basic data only available with the ~$250 kit. Professional kit well over $1k. Disclaimers about undocumented Porsche codes.

Sounds to me like a Porsche focused tool rather than an all purpose tool will have more functionality. And more interest in providing support. Durametric does have a history of enhancing features.

[harryrcb]

Originally Posted by mikefocke

Poking around the AutoEnginuity site tells me there are two different levels and the user's guide for Porsche is dated 2007. Only 6 pages (compare to Durametric's 29 pages). OBD2 basic data only available with the ~$250 kit. Professional kit well over $1k. Disclaimers about undocumented Porsche codes.

Sounds to me like a Porsche focused tool rather than an all purpose tool will have more functionality. And more interest in providing support. Durametric does have a history of enhancing features.

The site is a pain to navigate but I think (could be wrong here) that you buy the cable with basic software for 250, then you can purchase the "enhanced" module for individual makes including Porsche for another 229 which goes beyond the basic obdII and supposedly they go up to 2010? If you go to the purchase now page it brakes it down for you. At least that's the way I interpret it.

[Wayne 962]

Yes, I've been complaining to them about their documentation and explanations for years. Honestly, I've had problems using both Durametric and AutoEnginuity software on my cars, so I don't have a specific recommendation. I have the factory PST-2 tool, and that pretty much works all the time for me (yes, I know, most people don't have one of those). I've tried both of the aftermarket tools, and I've found issues and frustrations with both of them. Durametric's tool seems a bit more robust, but as of a few years ago, lacked a bunch of features that AutoEnginuity's had. I think that Durametric may be catching up, although I haven't looked at either of the latest versions.

This would be a *great* article for Excellence magazine to cover.

-Wayne

[harryrcb]

Originally Posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts

Yes, I've been complaining to them about their documentation and explanations for years. Honestly, I've had problems using both Durametric and AutoEnginuity software on my cars, so I don't have a specific recommendation. I have the factory PST-2 tool, and that pretty much works all the time for me (yes, I know, most people don't have one of those). I've tried both of the aftermarket tools, and I've found issues and frustrations with both of them. Durametric's tool seems a bit more robust, but as of a few years ago, lacked a bunch of features that AutoEnginuity's had. I think that Durametric may be catching up, although I haven't looked at either of the latest versions.

This would be a *great* article for Excellence magazine to cover.

-Wayne

Wayne do you know if either, and I have not got an answer from either one, if they can scan the 997.2 models? I think Durametric with ver 6. does but have not clue about Auto Enginuity.
and yes I would agree about the article getting done.
If you got a spare pst2, let me know lol

[mikefocke]

I often look at an item's users manual to get an idea of the way the product manager present ease of use and features. If they can't document then clearly, update the docs with the software, I stay away. I'm an ex-product-manager myself and I know how much I personally put into the docs and the explanations and the usability, I want that from a supplier. And a Revision history.

I think you are right on the pricing, and they have a page of items supported for Porsche. But I couldn't find airbags for the Boxster as the example I was looking for. There is one screen shot of a single screen for an "02 Boxster, as an example. Where Durametric is quite clear about what they are supporting.

PST2 or PIWIS superior...of course...and lots lots more if you can find em.

[harryrcb]

Originally Posted by mikefocke

I often look at an item's users manual to get an idea of the way the product manager present ease of use and features. If they can't document then clearly, update the docs with the software, I stay away. I'm an ex-product-manager myself and I know how much I personally put into the docs and the explanations and the usability, I want that from a supplier. And a Revision history.

I think you are right on the pricing, and they have a page of items supported for Porsche. But I couldn't find airbags for the Boxster as the example I was looking for. There is one screen shot of a single screen for an "02 Boxster, as an example. Where Durametric is quite clear about what they are supporting.

PST2 or PIWIS superior...of course...and lots lots more if you can find em.

I just went back to review and they are real vague about 986 air bags but it is my believe that you can turn the air bag light off on any car again not sure if that is correct, I'm thinking since I allready ordered the durametric I will try it out (they have a 30 return policy) if I can get Auto Ingenuity to do the same, I will try that one as well and keep the one that works best for me.

[Wayne 962]

Originally Posted by harryrcb

If you got a spare pst2, let me know lol

Actually, I do! I have two of them, both converted to solid state hard drives (memory cards instead of rotating hard drives).

-Wayne

[harryrcb]

Originally Posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts

Actually, I do! I have two of them, both converted to solid state hard drives (memory cards instead of rotating hard drives).

-Wayne

sent you a pm Wayne

[mattatk]

Old topic, new idea.....

I've been using GoLink's cable & OBD2 app on my iPhone for on board diagnostics. Unfortunately they are limited to generic OBD2 data.

What would be ideal is the Durametric software on iPhone/iPad. (Well, PIWIS software would be better but...)

I have emailed Durametric asking if they could adapt/rewrite for iPhone but they weren't too interested. If anyone else would enjoy the convenience of the Durametric program on an iPhone/iPad, please email Durametric at info@Durametric.com or via their online query page of their website.

Cheers,
Matt