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VW Phaeton - anyone know these cars?
Hey guys - does anyone know anything about the VW Phaeton?
These seem like a Bentley with a VW emblem and are cheeeep! Tell me they don't have the reliability of an Audi or W12 Passat...
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11-16-2016, 07:45 PM
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Sweet ride. Not sure about reliability. A buddy had one.
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11-16-2016, 08:02 PM
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Kind of a rare bird. Pretty expensive when they came out.
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11-16-2016, 08:19 PM
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But far away from a Bentley. It is a large Passat. And a very boring design.
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11-16-2016, 11:13 PM
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BTW, in the factory (the glass-factory in Dresden) where the Phaeton was built VW now will build the E-Golf.
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11-17-2016, 01:37 AM
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The car has more in common with the A8. The Audi had an aluminum body. The VW body was steel. Drive trains were almost identical.
Best Les
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11-17-2016, 02:54 AM
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The most complicated VW ever made. Need I say more? I've read that they are insanely expensive to maintain.
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11-17-2016, 03:49 AM
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I have thought about buying one a couple of times. Common sense came tome at the last minute.
They are only cheap up front.
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11-17-2016, 03:58 AM
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11-17-2016, 03:59 AM
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..and it surely passed the VW emission tests with flying colors..
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11-17-2016, 04:05 AM
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Stay away..............I uses to work with a large retail VW dealer when they were new. They sold exactly 1 V8 car - sent the other 2 V12s back. Believe me if you are looking to purchase misery & frustration - try something like a 928 or a well set- up 944 ..............
As my Dad would say - There's no such thing as a cheap horse......
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11-17-2016, 05:57 AM
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Buddy had one - bought it used with an $$$$ extended warranty.
First 3 months or so - dash "went out" - got his extended warranty cost right back with that 1 item. A short while later, the "low tire pressure" audible alarm starting going off all the time - he couldn't get it to stop. Not sure what it took to get that to stop.
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This is an 04 for sale on ebay right now. Nice interior....lots of buttons to push!
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Both W8 and W12 have one achilles heel: cam phasing oils pressure solenoid. There is a metal mesh that will let go and lodge itself into the piston bore, locking the cam phasing. If you are handy (it's a "surgery"-type job), it is 0 dollars to remove/clean/reassemble. If you are not, it's stealership time...and they only replace phaser solenoids....which means engine out...which means 5000$ + Also, you must have VagCom and rather good grasp of CanBus and troubleshooting to be able to own one on a budget. V8 is regarded as good. V10 TDI is a beast too...but it requires somebody who is an enthusiast (or very rich). Next year, I am buying a V10! No belts, no chains! Everything is gear-driven... V10 and W12 have very unique brakes that are $$$$$
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  What's not to love? Aside from outdated tech and hard to find parts that is. Sold mine before the warranty expired but loved it to death. |
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From Car Buzz:
Only 2,253 people purchased a Phaeton in the United States. The car was available with a 4.2-liter V8 with 335 horsepower or an optional 6.0-liter W12 engine with 420 horsepower. The Phaeton had a base price of $83,000 when new, but now both V8 and W12 models can be purchased for a fraction of that. Since Phaetons were very rare, there aren't that many used models for sale. However, you can find a good V8 model for less than $15,000. You can even find a W12 model for under $20,000. For less than the price of a nicely equipped Jetta, you can have Volkswagen's ultimate masterpiece. The Phaeton was even better than the Audi A8 and Bentley Continental, which it shared a platform and engines with. How so? Is The VW Phaeton The Best Car In The World, Or The Dumbest Waste Of Money EVER?
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11-18-2016, 02:04 PM
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Anybody here driving one now?
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Its like a Rolex clock radio.
Electrics on regular VWs are bad enough...
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