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A hole in the space station?

First it was a meteorite. Now it’s sabotage.

https://phys.org/news/2018-09-russia-space-station-leak-deliberate.html


Russia: Hole in space station was likely act of sabotage | Fox News





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Duct tape to the rescue.

That’s pretty crazy.
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Duct tape to the rescue.

That’s pretty crazy.
Duct tape was on the moon missions, so why not on the space station? That is just a very very high overhead duct issue solved with duct tape.
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did you guys know that you can see the ISS with the naked eye in the right conditions? at dusk when it flies over you there will be a reflection of the sun that is visible against the darkening sky.

there are some cool apps you can get that tell you where various satellites are so you can try to locate them.
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There's a hole in the space station dear Liza, dear Liza, a hole...
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What I find interesting is how long the glue held up on the accidental drill hole. I wonder if he just filled it with gum or toothpaste? And how many other holes got botched?-WW

ps. I've watched so many scify movies where folks get sucked out or their parts got sucked out, I doubt I could sleep one night on that thing. Just how hard a vacuum could it be?
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Wetwork, the American system is low pressure with elevated oxygen.

The Russian space crafts had stronger launch platforms for greater weight early on, they run closer to normal atmosphere.

Vacuum is vacuum, you don't go negative.

8psi, a hole by a 1/4" drill bit would not suck you out.
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did you guys know that you can see the ISS with the naked eye in the right conditions? at dusk when it flies over you there will be a reflection of the sun that is visible against the darkening sky.

there are some cool apps you can get that tell you where various satellites are so you can try to locate them.
We use the "Heaven's Above" app and it works well if you have a compass on your phone or tablet.

There have been a couple things we have seen that were no on the app though. One I am sure is not on any app.
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I am not one to gain much from "motivational speakers".

Sorta eye roll and move on.

Chris Hadfield was an exception.

His becoming an astronaut was intentional, a life goal with each decision weighted with that goal in mind.

He sacrificed normal to be extraordinary.
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We use the "Heaven's Above" app and it works well if you have a compass on your phone or tablet.

There have been a couple things we have seen that were no on the app though. One I am sure is not on any app.
The app I use has hundreds of listed satellites. I was cooler back when the space shuttle was active. I got to see the shuttle go over and it was very close to docking with the space station. A few days later when I saw it they were connected.
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I am pretty sure that whatever we saw doing S turns up there would not be listed in any app out there and it wasn't the X37. Except for one DARPA/Air Force uses. Assuming it was ours.
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I am not one to gain much from "motivational speakers".

Chris Hadfield was an exception.

He sacrificed normal to be extraordinary.
In my last job he was invited as a guest speaker, incredible stories he told..

One awesome story was that sometimes the NASA guys mess up, just like any other workplace:
In the planning they decided to put two devices of the same (one as a backup) to measure the distance and speed of the incoming spaceship to attach itself to the station.
Well, what nobody in NASA thought was: what if we get two distinct readings ? Which is right?? Too fast, they punch a hole and kill everyone, not close enough? the hinges will rip apart and make a hole and kill everyone...
So his call as a commander was to say: no computers. Visual parallelogram to calculate speed and distance. He did the calculations in his head.. Asked for confirmation of the calculations and everybody survived. Talk about guts!


The learning is to be prepared for the worst and hope for the best. He practiced the parallelogram approach so he knew what to do, obviously he never expected to use it.


One funny thing he mentioned is that when you're up there the paradigm changes because absolutely everyone not in the tin can with you, is part of a well intentioned support centre and nothing more.
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My day job is investigating component-level electronic failures on the Space Station main computers so they can be repaired. Also doing similar work for copies of the equipment used on the ground. There's just a handful of us working this including managers because the failures are so rare. Remember the Maytag repairman?

Right now, failed computer cards come down in Soyuz or the Dragon, depending on priority. The 40 or so racks of computers that are flying right now were all originally designed and built here in Glendale Arizona. Funny the top-tier computers just finished upgrading to Pentium 2 or 3 years ago.

It's rewarding because we spend months or years to fully understand any failure before the item can fly again. I'll often design a test rig or write software (LabView) so we can exercise the equipment.

Every couple of months, I'm lucky to work a side project. I've done design and analysis work for Orion CEV a few times. Sometimes the work is for a missile or helicopter.

All I can say about the drilled hole in the wall is NASA will be sure to get more data about the problem than what is likely necessary. Even if it's someone else's issue (Russians). They want to be sure when it comes to safety.

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