A 28mm lens is hardly a fish eye lens in my book.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1541186328.jpg

Speak for yourself...

Gawd help me..I agree with you.

Well we can close up the Internet now, it’s all over.:D

Note that I’d still happily drive a 997 or earlier assuming I could find something reasonably priced. The new ones just aren’t appealing, ESPECIALLY for the money.

Meh, things change, especially when you're talking about 2 things that are 60 YEARS apart.

This is a super cool link with some original prices for 356s over the years. And yes, the 4 cam speedster was the cheapest of the 4 cam cars.

356 Porsche Price Lists

You've also got to think about, back then, all of the cars were hand assembled, so leaving stuff off of the car actually did make the car cheaper (less stuff and less time to assemble it). These days when everything is done on an assembly line, putting out a few odd cars that are different from the majority, actually does cost the company more to make because they have to make new items in small batches and separate these items from the rest and probably mostly hand assemble them.

Nice, but I might as well be looking at pictures of super models.
I can't have either. :D

Nah, pull off the wrap and you have a silver Speedster.

You know, it really does boil down to what you like and what's important to you. A long time buddy & I usually get together after Cindy & I get done playing pool, the 3 of us going out for a bite.

Marty is a bit older than I, owns 32 residential rental properties in the Salem area, all paid for. On paper, I'm sure he's quite successful. He still has his '58 Speedster, a TTOD car during his autocross days...late 60's, early 70's. I haven't seen the car in years...it's stored somewhere. Marty's only "driver" is an early 90's Toyota Tacoma.

Last night, he asked if I'd rather have Jim's $100,000 Ferrari or his $300,000 Speedster. Jim being a friend of Marty's I've never met who recently bought a Ferrari I've never seen, so don't ask me the model..I don't remember.

I answered that I didn't want either of them. I wanted a car like I had...one yielding decent performance over the roads I drive. One that would take us comfortably over both 2 lane blacktop and a crowded I-5 during a wet rainy day and that is not so valuable that I'd be afraid of leaving in unattended while I'm inside a pool hall, enjoying some time knocking balls around. I also didn't want a car that is a hassle to care for.

Hey, nobody is right or wrong here. Marty has made his life (and car) choices. So has his friend Jim, and so have I.

And yet, I keep looking at lots of things that I can't have...

Porsche makes/made such a car and called it the Boxster Spyder.........and better looking too. :cool:

2011
2011 Porsche Boxster Spyder
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2011-porsche-boxster-spyder-short-take-road-test
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1541200541.jpg

2019 Porsche Boxster Spyder
https://www.porsche.com/microsite/boxster-spyder/usa.aspx#/
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1541200541.jpg

Compared to the new 911 Speedster I know which one I would take..................goes without saying..........also goes without saying which one Porsche will make more money on.


James Dean
1955 Porsche 356 Super Speedster
http://jakescarworld.blogspot.com/2012/11/james-dean.html
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Sounds like it was another more for less (but I'm not complaining) SE.
"With the Spyder, you pay more for less of everything except performance. It’s a marketing cow Porsche has milked many times, usually  to enthralling effect.

The metamorphosis from $58,950 Boxster S to $62,150 Boxster Spyder happens thusly: The power top is gutted, along with about 200 pounds. The roof is a canvas handkerchief that looks like it came off the Victoria’s Secret XXL rack. It hooks to the windscreen header and snaps to the roll hoops. "

2019 Porsche Boxster Spyder
https://www.porsche.com/microsite/boxster-spyder/usa.aspx#/
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1541200541.jpg

Compared to the new 911 Speedster I know which one I would take..................goes without saying..........also goes without saying which one Porsche will make more money on.


James Dean
1955 Porsche 356 Super Speedster
Jake's Car World: James Dean: Porsche 356 Super Speedster
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Don't forget the 2015/16 Spyder
2015/16 Spyder had the GT4 3.8L
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/porsche/boxster/38-spyder-2dr/first-drive

Sounds like it was another more for less (but I'm not complaining) SE.
"With the Spyder, you pay more for less of everything except performance. It’s a marketing cow Porsche has milked many times, usually  to enthralling effect.

The metamorphosis from $58,950 Boxster S to $62,150 Boxster Spyder happens thusly: The power top is gutted, along with about 200 pounds. The roof is a canvas handkerchief that looks like it came off the Victoria’s Secret XXL rack. It hooks to the windscreen header and snaps to the roll hoops. "

Don't forget the 2015/16 Spyder
2015/16 Spyder like the GT4 had the 3.8L from the Carrera S with 370hp.
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/porsche/boxster/38-spyder-2dr/first-drive
http://autowpaper.com/images/porsche...der-2015-1.jpg

If the red one looks like a tank, then the black one looks like a soap box derby, car.

I really didn't know they kept making them past 2011 until I started looking it up. Apparently they have overcome some of their impracticality.

From that link:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1541246444.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1541246444.jpg

Really the Boxster Spyder is closer to the essence of what the original Speedster was. Lighter weight, low options count, higher performance. The Spyder has been frequently referred to as Porsche’s best driver’s car, probably why even the 987 based models aren’t cheap. Walter Rohl has one as a personal car, that says something.

I could see myself in a Boxter Spyder. The idea of a “luxury performance car” never appealed to me.

Tracks around here would probably require a bolt in roll bar on that...rear hoops look well below the driver's head. Pop-ups are not considered acceptable.

Same here. Too bad they still aren’t cheap.

I was thinking the same thing, but didn't want to ruin his moment. Fortunately, I suspect it has probably passed by now.

Just a quick search on the 'Net shows that a bunch of the 2011 models that are up for sale are "asking" $50-65k, but then they are also cars with only 5-6k miles. The 2015-16 models with the 3.8L are going for >$100k. I'd assume that if you could find a 2011 model with 20-50k miles (if they exist) you could probably pick one up for closer to $40k. I just don't know if anyone drives a spyder that much unless maybe it's someone in Cali where they never worry about rain.