Does this actually exist? pizza and beer usually would get it done here in No cal.

[Sooner or later]

Pizza, beer, and a bag of dope was needed to assemble my David Haffler amps (2, bridged) and preamp.

After 16 hours of drug induced labor we had a finished product that worked perfectly.

[pmax]

Originally Posted by NYNick

You and I have different definitions of 'vile', Max. This guy contributes nothing to the board or the hobby. Even you and I have something of value to offer from time to time.

Sorry, not the best choice of words on my part, "heavy handed" is better ?

But you're probably right. I should just ignore the BS. There's enough of that going around anyway.

Yeah, I believe there's enough room in this "car guy" universe for everyone.

[Hads930]

Didn’t wade through the pages of the usual pissing match that threads seem to turn into but will provide my story of this scenario playing out.

In Oct of 2010 I pulled my engine to replace the clutch, during disassembly and cleaning I found a couple broken head studs. In Jan of 2011 I reached out to Slow and Rusty here on the board and asked him about locating some cam tools so that I could tear my engine all the way down. He suggested I run down David or Shifter125 at the time, indicating that he may have the tools. I contacted David through the PM function here and he was very kind and offered his tools. Once we met I recognized him from a dyno day at a local shop and we talked at length as he toured me around the facility where he worked. I mentioned that I may need some help getting the cams timed once I was ready to reassemble and inquired if I could pay him to come help, his immediate response was “What kind of beer do you drink?”. Fast forward to June/July of that year and I am in need of assistance. If you have never been to Houston in the summer, working in a non air conditioned garage is similar to working in the boiler room in hell. David brought his dial gauges not 1 but 2 Saturdays in a row to get cylinders on and my cams timed. Truly an unselfish act that I appreciate every time I get in my car. This guy is an engineer with a full schedule but still made time to drive 35 or so miles two weekends in a row to help a stranger w a common interest. So yes these things do happen, there are some fantastic people on this board.

Additionally when I got the engine back in the car I was working some bugs out and had a few weird questions, Chris Carroll at Turbokraft probably spent an hour on the phone w me. I bought a few oil lines from him and I think he may re-bushed my rockers but I was certainly not someone he did a ton of work for, again just a guy helping out.

Keep your faith in humanity, good people still exist, some of them don’t even want pizza and beer........

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by NYNick

You don't participate. You don't contribute. You don't add to the hobby. You detract.
Go away. Nobody appreciates your opinion, nor do we want it.

I should not engage with such a hostile but hilarious tirade, but the above is false.

While I am no tech expert, I certainly contribute when there is an opportunity.

Someone recently needed help fabricating a B&B wrench.
See my response.

When I do a project, I document it for fellow beginners.
How to change the turn signal stalk.
How to test the DME relay

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

Pizza, beer, and a bag of dope was needed to assemble my David Haffler amps (2, bridged) and preamp.

After 16 hours of drug induced labor we had a finished product that worked perfectly.

I'm intrigued...what assembly was involved, which speakers...and album, were used to test the system and why weren't we invited ?

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by gordner

This shows that you really don't know 911's well. One of the least major things you can do is drop the engine. I do it every time I have more than a couple simple things to do to the motor.

Nah, a mechanic does not charge 8 hours labor for a "minor" job.
Minor would be changing the oil, adjusting fan belt tension, or replacing a fuse.

[drcoastline]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

Nah, a mechanic does not charge 8 hours labor for a "minor" job.
Minor would be changing the oil, adjusting fan belt tension, or replacing a fuse.

Sorry Sug, Gordner is correct. Dropping the engine is not a major ordeal.

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by drcoastline

Sorry Sug, Gordner is correct. Dropping the engine is not a major ordeal.

Then why does it cost $1000 ?

[drcoastline]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

Then why does it cost $1000 ?

Because it is a Porsche and mystical and people will pay. Why do people pay $6K+ to assemble a 911 engine? Because it is the mystical 911 air cooled boxer engine. Until you pull back the curtain. Now I am not suggesting you yank your engine and tear it down by yourself with out an experienced person to guide you, but it really isn't complicated. Just a trick here and there, put this in place before that, this part goes in this way even though it looks like it should in that way.

[fastfredracing]

My gosh, I have done a lot of free work over the years . Just this past September, on vacation in the outer banks, I replaced all the brake lines, on a good ole redneck boys giant jacked up Tahoe beach crawler for free, in his driveway at a trailer park . There was no pizza involved, they , made hamburgers, steak, and had beer. ( they offered weed too! ) .They invited my whole family over. Super nice people. These guys always help my buddy , who owns property down there, and I wanted to pay it back . Plus, I get bored after a few days of doing nothing .

[berettafan]

Paul from Performance Oriented taught me how to tune the webers on my '70 bastard in the parking lot of an extended stay hotel near BWI for a 6 pack and lunch. Showed me what a colortune is and how to use it.

He was in town on unrelated business and had recently done the budget rebuild on them for me via mail. The car is long gone but that was one of the greatest moments of Porsche ownership I experienced and I will never forget it. The passing of hard earned knowledge for nothing more than a polite gesture...it was just awesome.

[berettafan]

Oh and I didn't bill a client for preparing their qtly payroll returns when they presented me with a couple twisted teas and a fantastic lunch they had grilled up for their employees. So that was an $80 lunch but well, well worth it.

[Pazuzu]

Originally Posted by drcoastline

That is a PERFECT internet image, thank you!

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo

Anytime, FintIsStoned! I have the space and I have to the tools (different than "I am a tool", which also applies!).

Thanks! I may take you up on that someday. Your work on AC is well regarded...while I am AC-impaired. I prefer electrical problems...as that is my background.

This is a good example to the OP...as Rawnees and I have established a relationship (although combative at times), we still share the love of the marque (and his odd humor). That relationship is solely due to PP...but I would not hesitate to help him if possible in another area.

When my daughter was trying to get into a private medical school, a Pelican (who is now passed...may he RIP) actually contacted the mayor of that city (that he knew socially) to try to influence the school to ensure sure she got a fair review of her situation. The same fellow picked up a lot of the people from the airport in his Porsche at a Pelican meet and ferried them around Vegas. He is certainly missed.

[fintstone]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

Then why does it cost $1000 ?

Because mechanics have to eat, have insurance, tools, heat and cool a shop, etc. They also have liability. If they drop your engine on the concrete, they are instantly out thousands. If I come to your house for a drop...you provide all that...including some risk/liability if we break something (or hurt ourselves)...as well as lunch/dinner and possible future return favors.


Other than for social reasons or to learn something...I would rather just pay a good shop (they need to make a living too). I do less and less of my own work myself due to lack of time (and improved financial ability).

[scottmandue]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

Who here has exchanged $5000 to $20,000 worth of automotive work
in exchange for $9 worth of goods, from a total stranger?

I know it's not about the money, obviously,
but who are these guys who have this kind of free time?

The big question here is where do you get beer and pizza for $9

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by scottmandue

The big question here is where do you get beer and pizza for $9

Wanna head over to Sugarwood's fer free pizza & beer Bubba? ....awe HELL NO!

When I purchased my Carrera, there was only one local shop that I would have trusted....long ago closed. No one would do better than I...so I do .

[pmax]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

I should not engage with such a hostile but hilarious tirade, but the above is false.

While I am no tech expert, I certainly contribute when there is an opportunity.

Sugar,
You're doing fine.

He probably missed those useful contributions to the tech forum in the midst of your other long headed threads, you know which ones I'm talking about.

[pmax]

Originally Posted by fintstone

This is a good example to the OP...as Rawnees and I have established a relationship (although combative at times), we still share the love

Raw !!!!!

[gtc]

I think we need to hook up Sugarwood and Trakrat... i bet they would become BFFs.