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URY914 12-16-2018 03:12 PM

The fascia was covered with aluminum so I didn't know what I'd find but luckily it was a big fat 2x6. Some houses around here don't have a fascia at all, just the ends of the roof framing so I was glad to see it. There was nothing wet or rotten so that was good too.

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URY914 12-16-2018 03:15 PM

Next thing was to open up the wall by removing the lap siding and expose the corner studs where my new wall will connect. It was ugly. Rotten wood and spider webs. The house built in 1956 so not a big surprise.


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URY914 12-16-2018 03:18 PM

The siding is cedar which is nice but I doubt if I'll be able to reuse it. I'll go back with hardyboard cement siding.

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ted 12-16-2018 03:20 PM

glad you did this during the off season so we won't miss any event photos next year. :)
AC in the shop how nice, tools, bench and big screen.

waiting overnight would of been unfortunate, must mix some cool mud there.

URY914 12-16-2018 03:21 PM

I pissed off this guy who seems to have been the dude making the webs. He must have been 1-1/2" across. He made his last web yesterday.

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Racerbvd 12-16-2018 03:25 PM

I was just thinking, you hadn't updated for a while.

URY914 12-16-2018 03:33 PM

So I cut out the rotten studs and cleaned it all up. I also made a run to the lumber yard and bought the material for the first few walls. Also bought this, 6' rolling Baker scaffold. Bought it at Northern Tool. It was on sale plus I had a $20 coupon. Got it for $139.00 plus tax. A great deal and so much easier/safer than working off a ladder.

The plan is to frame the walls during the days I'm taking off for Christmas. More updates in a few weeks.

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Rich Lambert 12-17-2018 07:02 AM

Oh boy, another garage!

URY914 12-28-2018 03:21 PM

Well Trump can't get his wall built but I sure can! ;)

The weather has been nice and I've been able to get some walls stood up. The first section needed me to notch the existing roof to get it to meet the corner stud.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1546042802.jpg

URY914 12-28-2018 03:24 PM

The first section was 14' long and I stood it up by myself. Me strong like Bull!
Second section was only 6' so it was easy.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1546042918.jpg

URY914 12-28-2018 03:34 PM

I bought myself a new hammer for Christmas. On sale for $11.00 at Lowe's. I couldn't pass it up. Now I have 4 framing hammers. This one has a larger head so I don't miss the nail head as much. Wife said it was the senior's model :)
I haven't built a wall like this since about 1986. Funny how it all comes back to you.

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URY914 12-28-2018 03:44 PM

The Engineer spec'd Simpson threaded inserts and epoxy that I can't find locally so I had to order it on-line. I don't want to deviate from the spec's because I don't know this inspector so I'm not risking it. Some of the details are a bit overboard IMHO such as each stud gets 2 nails from the bottom of the plate and 3 toe nailed from the top side of plate. PLUS threaded rods on 48" centers from the concrete up through the top plate. :rolleyes: We have Hurricane Andrew and the others to thank for this.

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URY914 12-28-2018 03:50 PM

The ceiling height is right at 10'. I could only match the existing and not have the addition's roof higher than the house. Building department requirement.

I'm happy with the progress thus far. The 2x4 studs are the same size as they were in 1986 but I seem to have grown. :(


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A930Rocket 12-28-2018 07:54 PM

Nice job. Keep us updated!

rfuerst911sc 12-29-2018 01:33 AM

Looks good Paul keep pushing yourself as much as you can , you know how quickly your weather can turn into a furnace/sauna !

Baz 12-29-2018 05:32 AM

Did not even see your thread until this morning, Paul. Wow.....very cool!

Put me in the same camp as those hoping to do something similar down the road.

I have a side yard that would be suitable, too. I'll have to look into the permitting stuff. I have a couple architect friends to give advice too.

If possible I would like to see a few pics of the Simpson threaded inserts and epoxy detail, please.

Thanks for all the pics and info so far - good luck!

URY914 12-29-2018 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10298983)
Looks good Paul keep pushing yourself as much as you can , you know how quickly your weather can turn into a furnace/sauna !

You got that right. Last night we got 1/2" of rain....today it's a lake.



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URY914 12-29-2018 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 10299071)
Did not even see your thread until this morning, Paul. Wow.....very cool!

If possible I would like to see a few pics of the Simpson threaded inserts and epoxy detail, please.

Thanks for all the pics and info so far - good luck!

I'll post them up when I get them on Monday.

Be sure to speak to a architect or engineer that knows residential wood framed construction. I work with commercial const. A/E's everyday and they were clueless when I was speaking to them about what I was doing.

Baz 12-29-2018 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 10299085)
I'll post them up when I get them on Monday.

Be sure to speak to a architect or engineer that knows residential wood framed construction. I work with commercial const. A/E's everyday and they were clueless when I was speaking to them about what I was doing.

Thank you! Yes, my guys are well versed in residential. They can do it all, pretty much.

rfuerst911sc 12-29-2018 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 10299083)
You got that right. Last night we got 1/2" of rain....today it's a lake.



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1546094610.jpg

A 1/2 " ? That's sissy rain we got 6 " yesterday/last night ! We are on Pace for record rainfall for the month . Stay dry and keep swinging that hammer .

Captain Ahab Jr 12-29-2018 01:42 PM

Looks good Paul, stupid question but as part of the original house has rot are you using pressure treated lumber ?

Scaffolding is worth the money, makes working so much easier

URY914 12-29-2018 02:14 PM

You shouldn't use pressure treated wood as it is too "wet". As it drys out it will warp and the nails will back out. Should only be used where the walls meet the concrete, i.e., the wall's bottom plate. If I were to use treated lumber for the wall studs the walls would end up a crooked mess. Also treated lumber drys out and is hard as a rock. Makes for extra work when trying to put us a shelf 5 years from now. You'd have to pre-drill every hole. Not a big deal but just another reason not to use it.

Captain Ahab Jr 12-29-2018 02:34 PM

you guys sure build funny over there :D

your exterior 2x4 stud wall frame is what I'll be using for my internal partition walls but I'll just screw mine to the base joists/concrete floor slab

I expect my bathroom walls to take some wind force loads but not anything hurricane force :D

Shaun @ Tru6 12-29-2018 02:34 PM

Nice progress Paul, must feel great to have some walls up!

ckelly78z 12-29-2018 05:56 PM

Wow, your making far better progress than I am on the shop build, far too many mini-emergencies get in my way.....looking good.

URY914 01-03-2019 04:47 PM

Here are the embeds. About $3.00/ea. :(

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1546566396.jpg


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A930Rocket 01-03-2019 07:00 PM

^^^^

So you drill a hole, epoxy it in and install a threaded rod it?

URY914 01-04-2019 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 10304649)
^^^^

So you drill a hole, epoxy it in and install a threaded rod it?

Correct!

KFC911 01-04-2019 03:50 AM

Cool thread...just saw it and haven't read it all...yet. But I can tell by yer dirt that you don't live on the southside :)!

rfuerst911sc 01-04-2019 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 10304474)

Paul I have never heard or seen that type of hardware , what type of epoxy do you use ? Do you put epoxy in the hole and on the exterior of the " bolt " before inserting into the hole ? I like to learn new things ! I assume you install the hardware so the washer portion is flush with the surface ? They are pricey little devils aren't they :D

URY914 01-04-2019 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10304825)
Paul I have never heard or seen that type of hardware , what type of epoxy do you use ? Do you put epoxy in the hole and on the exterior of the " bolt " before inserting into the hole ? I like to learn new things ! I assume you install the hardware so the washer portion is flush with the surface ? They are pricey little devils aren't they :D

I haven't installed one yet but I will be next week. This weekend is the Roar Before the 24 so I'll be at Daytona Sat/Sun. ;)

Typically you drill the hole, blow the dust out, fill the hole about 3/4 of the way with epoxy and drive it in. Drive it in after the pressure treated bottom plate 2x4 has been set so you are driving it thru the plate and into the concrete.

The epoxy is Simpson Strong-Tie SET-3G or a Hilti product. All must have Florida Product Approvals.

VincentVega 01-04-2019 07:27 AM

Is just the head interior threaded? Whats it for?

thanks for the updates, learned something new

schwarz633 01-04-2019 08:59 AM

That appears to be a mechanical anchor:

https://www.strongtie.com/mechanicalanchors_mechanicalanchoringproducts/thd-rc_anchor/p/titen-hd-rod-coupler

URY914 01-04-2019 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VincentVega (Post 10305013)
Is just the head interior threaded? Whats it for?

thanks for the updates, learned something new

I have to install a threaded rod into the end of it and it goes up in the wall cavity and through the double 2x4 top plate on the wall. I then put a 2" x 2" by 3/16" washer and nut. The rods are required to be installed within 8" of the end or corner of a wall and 48" on center spacing in the wall.

And before you ask, they don't tell me how tight to crank down the nut. No torque requirements are stated. :rolleyes:

rfuerst911sc 01-04-2019 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 10305286)
I have to install a threaded rod into the end of it and it goes up in the wall cavity and through the double 2x4 top plate on the wall. I then put a 2" x 2" by 3/16" washer and nut. The rods are required to be installed within 8" of the end or corner of a wall and 48" on center spacing in the wall.

And before you ask, they don't tell me how tight to crank down the nut. No torque requirements are stated. :rolleyes:

Tighten them until they strip then back off a 1/4 turn :D

A930Rocket 01-04-2019 06:30 PM

Just snug them down. If you over tighten them, the wood shrinks and then there’s a gap.

That’s what I hear anyway.

Do you use the same procedure for a two story home? We use the threaded rod epoxied in with a Simpson LTT-19 using the same spacing as you. The exterior sheathing has the **** nailed out of it from the bottom plate to the bottom of the rafters. Interior shear walls the same as needed. H10’s hold the rafters on.

URY914 01-05-2019 04:33 PM

I've got a interior shear wall. It gets nailed like crazy.

I suppose the rods and anchors would be the same on a 2-story. BTW my plans call for 3/8" rods which pretty skinny. I came a upon about 20 1/2" rods so that's what I'm using.

Baz 01-05-2019 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 10304474)
Here are the embeds. About $3.00/ea. :(

And worth every penny!

Peace of mind when a hurricane blows through.

I built a little canopy off my back patio and made sure I used some very healthy lag bolts to fasten the post brackets onto the concrete deck. Those babies are stout!

Thanks for the pics, Paul - really appreciate any details you can share...SmileWavy

URY914 01-14-2019 04:38 AM

Seems like today is everyone's workshop update status day.

This weekend I completed framing another wall section. This had a window in it which is framed with 2 king studs on each side and a single jack stud and double 2x6 header. It was a 10' section of wall and it was HEAVY when it came time to stand it up. I also found out I was 1/2' off from the bottom plate to the top plate on my stud spacing. What a PITA to deconstruct and nail it back together.:( Measure twice - nail once.;)

Also due to the window location and threaded rod spacing or each side of the window and from the corners and not exceeding 48", I have 6 rod in this section of wall. :rolleyes:

rfuerst911sc 01-14-2019 04:45 AM

And the pics are where ??? :D


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