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JonT 03-07-2019 10:07 AM

I think that Gal Gadot should play every superhero male or female forever from now on

Deschodt 03-07-2019 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JonT (Post 10381222)
I think that Gal Gadot should play every superhero male or female forever from now on

You make a strong case.

flipper35 03-07-2019 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jcwade (Post 10380841)
Does it really matter if a fictional character is male or female?

Yes, Jack Reacher should not be a Woman. Or a Tom Cruise for that matter, though he does a good enough job acting the part it doesn't fit the descriptions in the books very well.

Wonder Woman shouldn't be a guy either.

flipper35 03-07-2019 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by varmint (Post 10381212)
The trouble is Marvel doesn’t own the film rights to its good female characters. That’s why we’re stuck watching this c lister chick.

They do for Black Widow.

varmint 03-07-2019 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 10381239)
They do for Black Widow.



Rumor is scarlet Johansson wants an insane amount of money. Downey jr got only half a million for the first iron man. Hemsworth got less for the first Thor. The studio does not like spending money.

flipper35 03-07-2019 10:30 AM

Right now all of them want an insane amount but during the original Avengers movie Joss wanted to do a Black Widow movie and the studio said no movies with a female lead. I bet they wish they had now.

Part of the reason they don't get as much money as they could is the fact that all of them that are CGI or otherwise don't have their face shown don't have enough screen time to justify it. Or so I have read.

I was dubious, but the studio has done a good job with casting for the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Not that some have to act much.

vash 03-07-2019 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 10381232)
Yes, Jack Reacher should not be a Woman. Or a Tom Cruise for that matter, though he does a good enough job acting the part it doesn't fit the descriptions in the books very well.

Wonder Woman shouldn't be a guy either.

yup!! Jack Reacher is a hulk of a man. even described as "gorilla like" in one of the later books. casting a super handsome munchkin didnt fit the mold either. GREAT FUN BOOKS.

flipper35 03-07-2019 12:17 PM

A Michael Clark Duncan type build comes to mind.

911boost 03-07-2019 01:02 PM

Agree completely about Jack Reacher, good easy reading.

As for the Marvel movies, I have a teenage son so we go see them and they tend to be fun. It does get old with things being changed to be more PC, but I can find something worth watching in each one of them (think Vash's comment on women versus men in tights.....).

varmint 03-07-2019 01:15 PM

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Yep, that is one sexy butt.

Tervuren 03-07-2019 03:05 PM

Indiana Jones and Laura Croft both made good main characters.

The trouble I have is when you move from relatable characters to forced cookie cutters in order to keep a small subset from objecting.

And there is also a problem, the people who object may not have watched what you did in the first place. In the entertainment industry it is very important to separate criticism from potential marker, and criticism from non potential market. This is one of the reasons NASCAR and the NFL are both in decline. They are trying to satisfy people who are not interested in being customers.

I am not the target market since when it comes to CG I'd rather the immersive experience of a video game over a movie.

For movies I prefer something that requires more human acting, real sets, etc... such as Buster Keaton.

The problem with taking a male character and swapping it to female is that you potentially lose your original base.

Better to make a new character, new name, etc. It is a different character, and will have different appeal.

Who would want to see Wonder Woman played by a man?

jyl 03-07-2019 09:59 PM

Boo hiss Alita rulz

vash 03-08-2019 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10381582)
Indiana Jones and Laura Croft both made good main characters.



Who would want to see Wonder Woman played by a man?

the new Lara Croft actress is smoking hot. smoking!!

Wonder "man"? i would NEVER go..even an island of Amazonian Men (where he would theoretically come from) crosses the boundary in my overly open mind :D (imagine the parties? FABUUULOUS!)

Gal Gadot took WW to the next level in every category.

vash 03-08-2019 06:28 AM

the LOVE the new TV HIGGENS on magnum PI. the show sucks, but she is delightful. :D

Steve Carlton 03-08-2019 06:34 AM

I thought Captain Marvel was terrible. I really liked Alita: Battle Angel, Wonder Woman, Black Panther, and the first Jack Reacher. It doesn't seem important to me that the character in the movie wasn't a big guy. I'm sure not reading the books makes that easy.

GH85Carrera 03-08-2019 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 10382181)
the new Lara Croft actress is smoking hot. smoking!!

Wonder "man"? i would NEVER go..even an island of Amazonian Men (where he would theoretically come from) crosses the boundary in my overly open mind :D (imagine the parties? FABUUULOUS!)

Gal Gadot took WW to the next level in every category.

Yea, she is hot, but not nearly "physical enough" and seems rather meek compared to the first move. It was an OK movie.

vash 03-08-2019 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 10382198)
I thought Captain Marvel was terrible. I really liked Alita: Battle Angel, Wonder Woman, Black Panther, and the first Jack Reacher. It doesn't seem important to me that the character in the movie wasn't a big guy. I'm sure not reading the books makes that easy.

in the books, Jack Reacher bones EVERYBODY!! that first movie, the lawyer would have been fair game. (also the Major in movie two)

i read a JR book; in the end, he has sex with a lady with a face infection. she wrapped her face like a mummy.

javadog 03-08-2019 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by varmint (Post 10381442)

Her most impressive parts are on the other side.

javadog 03-08-2019 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 10382208)
in the books, Jack Reacher bones EVERYBODY!! that first movie, the lawyer would have been fair game. (also the Major in movie two)

i read a JR book; in the end, he has sex with a lady with a face infection. she wrapped her face like a mummy.

Actually, there are a number of female characters in the Reacher books that he doesn't hook up with. There's one that is featured in a number of the books, probably his closest friend.

For what that's worth.

If you haven't read the whole series, you should. Pick a long weekend and binge-read them.

JR

scottmandue 03-08-2019 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10382251)
Her most impressive parts are on the other side.

Yes, nice, however I would have to see her in a bikini for final judgement. ;)

So, when is the female Roster Cogburn coming out?


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