Mercedes M275 Engine

[GG Allin]

I'm a collector. Something tells me I should have one of these sitting in my garage under a blanket. They're cheap, like LSx cheap. Am I nuts? I wonder if one would fit in an E36.

Discuss.

[Tobra]

I don't know, that turbo looks a little smallish

[speeder]

That's why there are two of them.

[Arizona_928]

small turbo = quicker spool.

wiki says 500 hp, 600 ft/lbs trq. Bigger turbos will prolly get 100+ hp out of it.

The LSX 454 is 600-ish hp N/A. However, also 12 grand. For 3 grand on a M275... that's a lot of bang for buck. Gut the accessory drives on it, adapter plate for transmission combo, and tune the ecm to run stand-alone. Would prolly be at half the price of the lsx 454.

[RWebb]

it would kick ass in one of the little Fiat mini-cars

[jwasbury]

I'm thinking there is much less aftermarket support for the MB engine vs. LSx variants.

Have read a number of threads on the topic of swapping MB diesel engines into other chassis, and one issue I've seen is that the engine ECU needs to handshake with other components (like the dashboard and transmission control units) in order to run. While anything is feasible, I'd imagine a whole lot of engineering is required.

[atcjorg]

maybe drop in a 240z?

[unclebilly]

It will be under $3000 to get 600HP out of a LSx. I’m sure it could be done for under $2000.

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by unclebilly

It will be under $3000 to get 600HP out of a LSx. I’m sure it could be done for under $2000.

Ticking time bomb that is. You can take a 5.3 and install stiffer springs so you don't float valves, corvette cam, and bubba junkyard turbo it. That'll net 500 + hp. I've built one, and they pop. My 928 has seen more engines than a tug shop in Florida. Well maybe not that many, but after the fourth I'm convinced on the lsx376 will be the next one.

[Tervuren]

Originally Posted by AZ_porschekid

Ticking time bomb that is. You can take a 5.3 and install stiffer springs so you don't float valves, corvette cam, and bubba junkyard turbo it. That'll net 500 + hp. I've built one, and they pop. My 928 has seen more engines than a tug shop in Florida. Well maybe not that many, but after the fourth I'm convinced on the lsx376 will be the next one.

By pop, and ticking time bomb, you mean...?

[Tervuren]

Originally Posted by jwasbury

Have read a number of threads on the topic of swapping MB diesel engines into other chassis, and one issue I've seen is that the engine ECU needs to handshake with other components (like the dashboard and transmission control units) in order to run. While anything is feasible, I'd imagine a whole lot of engineering is required.

https://engineswapdepot.com/?p=29440

[asphaltgambler]

I dig it, think it would be a great swap into anything. Pretty sure you'll need the body control module as the ECM will need to see the security system disabled, recognizing the ignition key / chip.

[jwasbury]

Originally Posted by Tervuren

https://engineswapdepot.com/?p=29440

^is there relevant Mercedes swap info there?

[Tervuren]

Originally Posted by jwasbury

^is there relevant Mercedes swap info there?

Just saying that you could get around ECU problems on modern engines by doing a stand alone system.

[Rich76_911s]

Think we could stuff one of those in this?

[jhelgesen]

Originally Posted by Tervuren

Just saying that you could get around ECU problems on modern engines by doing a stand alone system.

i'm using a MaxxECU engine management unit in my m62tu44 bmw swap, full control of the vanos cam, canbus support, even obd2. Does way more than I'll ever need.

[jwasbury]

Originally Posted by Rich76_911s

Think we could stuff one of those in this?

I’d prefer that ride with a diesel.

This G wagon isn’t diesel, but it is bulletproof...maybe a better candidate for the OP’s engine

https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cto/d/palmer-1984-mercedes-benz-class/6822184587.html

[wayner]

Originally Posted by GG Allin

I'm a collector. Something tells me I should have one of these sitting in my garage under a blanket. They're cheap, like LSx cheap. Am I nuts? I wonder if one would fit in an E36.

Discuss.

Yes

Nuts

Apparently

Time bombs
https://youtu.be/Rlj7254gOww

[onewhippedpuppy]

That’s pretty awesome but unless you are a stud with standalone engine management it would be a nightmare to get running correctly, not to mention interfacing with the rest of the car.

[legion]

Stuff it in the back of a Cayman...