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Old Clock Experts........

So the story goes, a great grandpa or great uncle of mine had a horse and cart a hundred years or so ago on the West Side of Chicago. As payment for a moving job he did, he was given this clock. The clock was hung in his home for years. At some point it was passed down to my mother's cousin. She has since passed it down to my sister. My sister had an "expert" look at it and all he could say is that it looks all original and most likely European and from the early 1700's. There are no markings on any of the working bits.
It will hang in my sister's house until she decides who to pass it down to. We're all very curious though, where and when it's from.
The drywall screws need to be swapped out. Not sure who put them there or why. Probably my mother's cousin's husband.




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Late 19th century.
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The really amazing thing is that the finial(?, decoration on the very top) is still intact and on/with the clock!

Great looking clock.

I think I've asked for and received help with this kind of identification before at https://mb.nawcc.org/
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Now that's the definition of a real "grandfather's clock."

At less than 6'3" tall that style of clock is often referred to as a 'grandmother' clock.
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Now that's the definition of a real "grandfather's clock."

At less than 6'3" tall that style of clock is often referred to as a 'grandmother' clock.
Even when they hang on the wall?
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Nice clock, love the size and finishes....agree, would place at late 19th/early 20th. Need closer look at the works and maker.
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Very nice looking clock. Does it work and keep good time?
I have a Howard Miller grandfather clock that wouldn't keep running...so I called them and they hooked me up with a horologist. He took the movement out and returned it a few weeks later after cleaning and replacing a couple parts. Works perfect now.
Someone like that could give you a good estimate of value and origin.
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Now that's the definition of a real "grandfather's clock."

At less than 6'3" tall that style of clock is often referred to as a 'grandmother' clock.
Nope...

I believe they are called Regulators...

Grandfather and Grandmother clocks sit on the floor.

Victorian styling..walnut case.

Most likely American made...circa 1880 plus or minus a few years.

Not worth a tremendous amount..

I find Victorian tedious..too busy, too ornate.

Victorian is outa style for the above reasons..
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Nope...

I believe they are called Regulators...

Grandfather and Grandmother clocks sit on the floor.

Victorian styling..walnut case.

Most likely American made...circa 1880 plus or minus a few years.

Not worth a tremendous amount..

I find Victorian tedious..too busy, too ornate.

Victorian is outa style for the above reasons..
I'm sure dealers all over get it wrong, but I've seen several wall hanging long case clocks referred to as 'grandmother' and the shorter ones yet called granddaughter.

However, I defer to you.
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Grandmother is freestanding. Smaller than grandfather.

Looks like a walnut Vienna regulator. Single hole - so no chime train, time only.

I’m not a horologist, but when sober the step father was. A little of it stuck. Saw many of these - and all sorts of other things - in pieces, and can still smell the ammonia used to clean the movements.
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Late 1800's to early 1900's. Most likely American; high quality pinwheel regulator movement. Movement may bear signature behind the dial. I'd hang it in my house!
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Yeah, beautiful clock whenever/where ever it was built. I'd love to have it or one like it.
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This thread seems to have yielded more info than anywhere else. "Victorian Walnut Regulator" seems to be the best way to describe it. A Google search of that returns some images of very similar clocks.

Yes, it does run, just needs to be carefully wound once a week. Not sure how good of time it keeps.
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Wife and I used to collect antique clocks. Started when my grandmother gave me a family heirloom clock that had been in the family since 1812. Would run for a day then stop. Sent it to one of two places in Connecticut that still rebuild them. Bushings were some type of hardwood that had to be hand made. Very $$$. Works like a champ now. Prices of antique clocks are about a third of what they were pre internet days. Yours is good looking and we actually don’t have one like that.
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Wife and I used to collect antique clocks. Started when my grandmother gave me a family heirloom clock that had been in the family since 1812. Would run for a day then stop. Sent it to one of two places in Connecticut that still rebuild them. Bushings were some type of hardwood that had to be hand made. Very $$$. Works like a champ now. Prices of antique clocks are about a third of what they were pre internet days. Yours is good looking and we actually don’t have one like that.
You need to start a thread with pics!
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Yes, it does run, just needs to be carefully wound once a week.
The clock has something called maintaining power that allows the pendulum to continue receiving an impulse while you are winding the weight. Turn the crank counterclockwise (should go 1/4 to 1/2 turn) before winding.
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You need to start a thread with pics!
There was one 4 or 5 years ago, but it may have been 10 years.
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My wife collects old clocks. We have lots of them, and I don't keep count. In the living room we usually pause the TV while the multiple clocks strike the hour.

We just had the "the clock" guy come over today to tweak one of them to get it to run consistently. I always like to tease him that I can just hose down the movement with WD40 and watch him recoil in horror. And no, I would never do that. The prices for old clocks are dropping. Most younger folks might like the look of one, but they want them gutted, and a quarts electric movement put in. It is my wife's hobby to keep them all running and set. I don't touch them.

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