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Crazy Police Chase/shooting:

Maybe one of the LEOs here can explain this one...seems bananas:

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-anaheim-police-dramatic-video-investigation-shooting-driving-20190508-story.html

Old 05-08-2019, 06:57 PM
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And yet in Hollywood, that would be mild in a movie.
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76 rounds? I think the Stormtroopers in "Star Wars" were more accurate.
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Old 05-08-2019, 08:30 PM
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maybe they watched Heat before starting their shift?
Old 05-08-2019, 08:35 PM
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Notice when a cop has a AR, it is called a rifle, but when a civilian has an AR, it is an assault weapon.
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Who shoots through their own windshield?
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Old 05-09-2019, 04:23 AM
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Who shoots through their own windshield?
It's still better then having somebody else shoot through your windshield.. no?

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My problem with this, imagine it had been a false call.

The P.D. seems to be doing the right thing by taking him off the force.
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There are more than one cars worth of police. Follow and call in backup. Box him in where he can be dealt with safely.

I highly doubt that shooting thru the windshield is considered SOP.
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so imagine all those missed shots....

stray rounds going out anywhere.


...how many houses or cars or kids or anything else in the cops way...........was "collateral damage?"


Serious. I want full bullet hole count of any passing or parked cars or other hard structure.


We only have 70+ rounds to find...........cops Ballistics report is going to take years
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Seems no one else got shot.

Seems they didn't shoot in more crowded areas.

My problem is the shoot first talk later.

Even if the guy ran off, had they confirmed he was on drugs?

I'm concerned about say, a situation where the call to the police had been false.
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Seems no one else got shot.

Seems they didn't shoot in more crowded areas.

My problem is the shoot first talk later.

Even if the guy ran off, had they confirmed he was on drugs?

I'm concerned about say, a situation where the call to the police had been false.
As close as the cops were when the PU pulled up right next to them they probably had cause by observing the drugged driver. However, from there on it didn't go well and the officers have rightly been punished.
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My problem is the shoot first talk later.
Sounds like the Jim West approach, "Shoot first, shoot later, shoot some more and when everyone's dead try and ask a question or two"
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Old 05-09-2019, 07:24 AM
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Seems they didn't shoot in more crowded areas.
That entire place is a crowded area.

It is literally a miracle they did not injure or kill someone else.
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Seems no one else got shot.

Seems they didn't shoot in more crowded areas.

My problem is the shoot first talk later.

Even if the guy ran off, had they confirmed he was on drugs?

I'm concerned about say, a situation where the call to the police had been false.
Well, in the video, the cops stated that he was pointing a gun at them.
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Old 05-09-2019, 08:35 AM
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They also said this:
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Pedersen also directed Staymates to hold his fire with the rifle because of the risk of danger to bystanders as they headed through heavily trafficked areas.
Which is a lie.

5.56 was too loud for them inside the vehicle. He quit complaining when the guy leaned out the window to shoot.

If they are going to lie about stuff, they should have the sense to lose the bodycam footage.
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Absolutely unbelievable that they would decline to charge the cops for any of this.
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“The fact that the two involved officers discharged their weapons 76 times, from a moving patrol car at Nava’s moving car, at approximately 9:30 a.m. on a Saturday morning, in a residential neighborhood where residents, including children, were home and on the streets, was alarming and irresponsible based on the totality of all the circumstances in this specific case,” the report stated.

The “conclusion that all of the available evidence is insufficient to warrant the filing of criminal charges against the two officers should not in any way diminish the fact that [this office] is alarmed by this conduct,” Deputy Dist. Atty. Scott Wooldridge wrote.
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Who exactly is it that concluded there was insufficient evidence to file charges on the officers? Seems pretty reasonable to at least let a jury have a look.
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