Where Did The 911s Go?

[Shaun @ Tru6]

I don't understand why people don't insure the heck out of their cars and drive them. My 84 is insured to full replacement value through Hagerty. If it ever gets stolen, I simply get the cash and buy another. Hit, get it repaired. Totaled, get the cash and buy the car back if possible. Now if only I can finish up the suspension rebuild and headers, I can actually drive it.

[ramonesfreak]

Same here. Gotta increase mine a little more but I’m pretty close to the value....my insurance cost has tripled since I first bought it but it’s still less per year than my jeep

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

I don't understand why people don't insure the heck out of their cars and drive them. My 84 is insured to full replacement value through Hagerty. If it ever gets stolen, I simply get the cash and buy another. Hit, get it repaired. Totaled, get the cash and buy the car back if possible. Now if only I can finish up the suspension rebuild and headers, I can actually drive it.

[911boost]

I did the same Shaun on my GT3RS.

[JackDidley]

Around here, small town America I am lucky to see 2 911s per month. Not air cooled. 911s period. I see a couple Macans and Cayennes per week. An ocassional Boxter and a Cayman (besides mine) maybe evrery 6 weeks. I know they are out there but nobody is driving them.

[nvr2mny]

I live in Kansas City. I drive our 82SC Targa ALL year round and our 930 fairly regularly. It’s very rare that I see another aircooled unless it’s on a beautiful weekend, then I “might” see 1 or 2. I’m with Shaun, insured for GRV through Hagerty and drive ‘em.

[DWBOX2000]

Air cooled, can't think of the last time I saw one but the number of new ones on the road is crazy. I see more 911's, Macans , Cayennes and the 4 door Sedans on the road.

What does it cost to insure a car for $50k, full insurance? Is it reasonable? I guess the cost stays down do to the low annual mileage.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

My insurance is under $900/year for over $50K coverage. I think I have 5000 miles a year which is easy to stay within given winter storage.

People are just idiots for not driving these cars. They're just cars. Insured. Replaceable with proper insurance. The only thing I think about is my car is a one of one special order car. Even then, it's a car. Perspective is everything.

not driving your car is like not having romantic relations with your wife because you might get divorced someday.

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

I don't understand why people don't insure the heck out of their cars and drive them. My 84 is insured to full replacement value through Hagerty. If it ever gets stolen, I simply get the cash and buy another. Hit, get it repaired. Totaled, get the cash and buy the car back if possible. Now if only I can finish up the suspension rebuild and headers, I can actually drive it.

Quick! Find a true replacement for a 1972 911S, never restored, never repainted, never dinged, with less than 60,000 miles. Make it an Irish Green no sunroof coupe, limited slip, fill leather interior with sport seats.

Can't find one? That's okay, I knew I couldn't either.

Thus the absolute paranoia every time I drove it. You can always restore a car. It's only original once.

Life has much less hassle now that the car is gone.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

^^^

I have two one of one cars, only one is drivable, one needs full restoration. I drive one and will drive the other once it's done.

The day I let a "thing" control my life and live in fear of that "thing," shoot me. Anyone here is welcome to, you can use my own Marlin, just shoot me dead. Jesus Christ I'd rather be dead than worry about something like is my car original and have to sell it out of fear and dread.

A life lived in fear is a life half lived. A life lived in fear over a car is just a waste.

[pwd72s]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

^^^

I have two one of one cars, only one is drivable, one needs full restoration. I drive one and will drive the other once it's done.

The day I let a "thing" control my life and live in fear of that "thing," shoot me. Anyone here is welcome to, you can use my own Marlin, just shoot me dead. Jesus Christ I'd rather be dead than worry about something like is my car original and have to sell it out of fear and dread.

A life lived in fear is a life half lived. A life lived in fear over a car is just a waste.

Apples and oranges. To each his own. I had my fun with the car..the fun became less over time because of various reasons. So, I moved on. Now having fun in other ways. There is indeed life after P-car ownership.

(edit) I can see your point as well. After all, I now drive an easily replaceable car. Yep, total peace of mind as far as cars are concerned.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

Apples and oranges. To each his own. I had my fun with the car..the fun became less over time because of various reasons. So, I moved on. Now having fun in other ways. There is indeed life after P-car ownership.

(edit) I can see your point as well. After all, I now drive an easily replaceable car. Yep, total peace of mind as far as cars are concerned.

No, whether a car is original or not has no bearing on the enjoyment of said car. The only person who cares about whether the car is original or not is the next owner. Yeah, save the car for him. I always find it amusing, and sad, when people post on Technical asking for advice on what color to paint their car. The color they want or the original color that will make the car more valuable. My response is always the same, paint the car whatever the color the next owner wants.

[DWBOX2000]

Well put Shaun. I remember watching Chasing Classic Cars and Wayne leaned on someones car he was thinking about buying. The woman made a comment about that her brother would never had done that. His reply was something like "it's just a car".

Someone wise said not driving a car is like not having sex with your girlfriend because your worried about saving for the next guy.

I tell everyone my most fun car was my Dodge Aries K back in College. I could ram into spaces and if anyone got sick in it, hose it out. Though trying to keep up with friends in BMW's wasn't fun.

Not sure what I would do with a one of one car. Unless I had boat loads of disposable income, I suppose I wouldn't buy one because I probably would be afraid to drive.

To each their own. I just wish I saw more of them.

[Noah930]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

My response is always the same, paint the car whatever the color the next owner wants.

But how do I know what color that is unless I ask?

[fastfredracing]

I put less than 200 miles on the 930 last year. The sc sat. not driven once. Prior to last year, the 930, and the sc sat for 3 years.
Lives get busy, so busy sometimes, that there is just not time to enjoy a sunday outing in a toy car, or the time to do the little maintenance things that need attention on a 40 year old automobile .
Once a few seasons of sitting go past, you can no longer just jump in an old car and plow it down the road like a modern day Honda .
In my life right now, I am just not finding any time to enjoy toys .
I do drive the snot out of the little 914 though. I try to drive it a few days a week when its not raining here .

[ramonesfreak]

Only reason I would let a cars conditions control me is if the parts are not obtainable. If I had a Muira which obviously has no bumpers, I would drive the hell out of it but I probably wouldn’t park it at the local fireman’s carnival

Then again, if I could afford a Miura, I could probably afford to fix anything in it and whether that fix effected its value probably wouldn’t matter to me

Exception would be Ferrari 250 gto. I probably would be afraid to drive it but I doubt I could resist. Seeing these rich guys take them to events and parades only as an excuse to get the oil warmed up is somehow upsetting to me

[911boost]

I see this same discussion a lot on even the newer GT cars. There are two camps, the owners that drive them, and the owners that don't. I guess if you have the money to buy one and let it sit, more power to you.

Mine is "high" miles with a tick over 18,000 miles on it. It is going to get even higher under my ownership.

I saw a Carrera GT with over 50,000 miles on it at Porsche of Minneapolis. It was in for regular maintenance. I thought that was freaking awesome.

[Jim Richards]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

No, whether a car is original or not has no bearing on the enjoyment of said car. The only person who cares about whether the car is original or not is the next owner. Yeah, save the car for him. I always find it amusing, and sad, when people post on Technical asking for advice on what color to paint their car. The color they want or the original color that will make the car more valuable. My response is always the same, paint the car whatever the color the next owner wants.

Don’t be so harsh, Shaun. Most people aren’t self-aware enough to know that they really want to paint their cars Aubergine.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak

Only reason I would let a cars conditions control me is if the parts are not obtainable. If I had a Muira which obviously has no bumpers, I would drive the hell out of it but I probably wouldn’t park it at the local fireman’s carnival

Then again, if I could afford a Miura, I could probably afford to fix anything in it and whether that fix effected its value probably wouldn’t matter to me

Exception would be Ferrari 250 gto. I probably would be afraid to drive it but I doubt I could resist. Seeing these rich guys take them to events and parades only as an excuse to get the oil warmed up is somehow upsetting to me

Good point on unobtainium parts. Every time I get Ferrari stuff, a lot of 275 GTS in the last year, I treat them like gold. What's funny is the quality is so poor you really have treat the parts with kid gloves.

My sense is we are probably 10 years off from proper 3D printed unobtainium parts. Or least printed and molds made.

Originally Posted by 911boost

I see this same discussion a lot on even the newer GT cars. There are two camps, the owners that drive them, and the owners that don't. I guess if you have the money to buy one and let it sit, more power to you.

Mine is "high" miles with a tick over 18,000 miles on it. It is going to get even higher under my ownership.

I saw a Carrera GT with over 50,000 miles on it at Porsche of Minneapolis. It was in for regular maintenance. I thought that was freaking awesome.

You, and that GT guy deserve a beer!

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

Don’t be so harsh, Shaun. Most people aren’t self-aware enough to know that they really want to paint their cars Aubergine.

It is one of the best early colors, no question there. Signal Yellow, Aubergine, Gemini Blue... the list goes on.

[pwd72s]

Aubergine? Oh, you mean "4 ball Purple"...

Actually, the car I drive now drives out like a '67 427 'Vette. I have car magazine test stats to prove it. Yet I can park it behind my favorite pool hall, take my cue case out of the trunk, and walk in the hall without looking back. It's replaceable, and if I cared about modifications, it's aftermarket supply is huge.

Far as I'm concerned, that's automotive contentment.

Others can find contentment in their own way. More power to 'em.

As to the original topic...I know where one old 911 is.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

Don’t be so harsh, Shaun. Most people aren’t self-aware enough to know that they really want to paint their cars Aubergine.

Well we now have the solution. This thread is officially closed.