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Here's mine. Nothing fancy, not a head turner, just a basic direct drive full-auto tt. I spent some quality time aligning the cartridge, (Joe Grado Black, - Made in NY, United States of America!) and it's really all I need. If I was feeling fancy, I might research spindle weights, but hey, vinyl records are supposed to have character....

I wanted a PL530, but people who are offering those for sale seem to think they're just a little too awesome these days, so I'll stick with the Denon.


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Old 06-13-2019, 12:26 PM
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Slightly off topic but the best analogue source is a reel to reel tape deck.

Prices can be eye watering but a good reel to reel can sound much better than the best turntable.

2019 PRICES for United Home Audio - Audiophile Tape Decks

The ULTIMA4 Tape Deck $24,500


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$24,500 is a lot of money for only a "good" source.
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Old 06-24-2019, 10:53 AM
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Reel to reel is the best source there is and you can easily pay 6 figures for a great turntable.
And you can certainly get a much cheaper but still decent reel to reel.

The problem with Reel to reel is the pre-recorded tapes are very expensive. ($400 for an album)
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I thought Oracle was always the pinnacle of turntables?
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I know turntables can be absurdly expensive, but a $24K source unit is still way out of reach for the vast majority of people. And $400 per album, yikes!
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And how many of us own reel to reel tape?
Sounds like a novelty for the extream Hobbyist, pretty much way off topic, and unaffordable for most people.
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As long as this has switched to tape...there are decks that can rival reel to reel...or close enough for older ears.

Here's an article written about what was considered the best cassete deck back in the day. I sent my Nakamichi to Willy Herman, and was quite pleased at the service.
When we talked on the phone, he was impressed that I shipped the deck to him in it's original shipping box.

https://www.tonepublications.com/old-school/nakamichi-dragon/

Those getting back into analog might wish to add the above site to their favorites list.
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As long as this has switched to tape...there are decks that can rival reel to reel...or close enough for older ears.

Here's an article written about what was considered the best cassete deck back in the day. I sent my Nakamichi to Willy Herman, and was quite pleased at the service.
When we talked on the phone, he was impressed that I shipped the deck to him in it's original shipping box.

https://www.tonepublications.com/old-school/nakamichi-dragon/

Those getting back into analog might wish to add the above site to their favorites list.
I had a Nak 1000
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Favorite thing to do with my reel to reel is record my vinyl onto them as mixed tapes......Until my reel to reel broke and the last guy willing to work on them around here moved into a nursing home

Shipping to a repair facility? No thanks.

My dad has about 6 machines all mint with my name on them. Someday I’ll get them but at this point I’m not even sure I want them

Also I have some of the best record shops in the world here. Last time I was in one I saw about 100,000 records for sale, new and used. Reel to reel tapes? None. Not even that easy to get good blank tape anymore
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The mention of hard to find tape...glad I stockpiled a batch of Maxell CR02 90 minute cassettes some years back.

So back to turntables...direct drive for speed adjustment or belt drive to isolate the platter from the motor?
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Belt drive hands down.

I have my eye on one of these:



And currently own this:



I've always been a Thorens fan bought the first one in 74. I like the Clearaudio but it's like your first love.....

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I think the Technics 1200 MK2 is certainly a contender for the best turntable of all time, but its not an audiophile unit. I have an MK5 and and M3D.

I would throw the Marantz 6300 out there and an excellent vintage option at a good price point. Beautiful machines.

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There's more to be said. I checked eBay; the Technics is outside his stated price range, even used. A nearby store may have it for less, but that is not guaranteed. On eBay, $400 and up with no cartridge; $500 and up with a cartridge. (Unless you're after a $260 turntable with no cartridge, a missing foot, and a broken cueing lever. What a bargain.)

In his price range, the Audio Technica LP-120 is an excellent direct drive option and will not require an external preamp. My boss has one at our office, and I use it at the monthly happy hour.

The Orbit appears to be a good belt drive option which will also come with a decent cartridge and an external preamp which also meets his budget.

Which turntable is better depends on several factors. rainscd, do you have any interest in vintage records, i.e., 78 RPM, or variable speeds? If so, a direct drive 3-speed turntable may be your best option at this price point. If not, the belt drive is probably a fine alternative.

Keep in mind, many OEM turntables are similar to the Audio Technica. For example, consider the Stanton T92USB

I use a Stanton ST-150, and I am very happy with it. It is possible to be a satisfied vinyl fan without a Technics.
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My turntable is like my car, old and German.

Duel 601

It can play upside down (the arm has a coil spring for stylus pressure)!

It randomly plays at 2x speed!

It requires a unique head to hold cartridges!

So freaking German!
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lasers do not touch the record but are super expensive

https://fromvinyltoplastic.com/optical-turntables-and-laser-cartridges-are-they-the-future/
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I have to question if that still works fully analog and if that still checks all the boxes for what Vinyl listening people really want.

To be honest, I do kinda like it when there is an occasional crack or pop on an old Jazz or Blues record...
I don't want perfect sound , i just want the lack of perfection or easy use of LP's

Music is always there, car, computer, playlists radio.. i don't listen to it properly

But with a record.. i have to do some effort..
put the old record away
find new one get it out of the sleeve..
throw it on the platter,
turn on amp
turn dial to loud
put the needle on the record

And then I listen with a lot more focus and enjoyment...


Most people have so many records anyway that they rotate them to the point they'll never wear out..

Sure if you have 1 record on repeat for ever.. get that lasuuuuuur
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