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Air Force One

Very classy, don't change it.

Old 06-14-2019, 04:45 AM
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Trump probably wants a big, gaudy, gold "T" on the tail...
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His proposals aren't dreadful. No gold T in site.

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They should change it to a 737 MAX just to prove how safe they are.

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..........wants to redesign Air Force One
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/06/13/trump-new-air-force-one-paint-colors-zelizer-nr-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/

One of the people writing an article or book on or with Trump years ago, was following him around daily and said from what he could tell Trump spent most of his time selecting swatches of material for the interior finishes of his hotels and casinos. Reports of his daughter doing much the same for other branded/licensed projects around the world indicate this is the "added value" of the Trump name - the look.

Just think how much added value Air Force One will have now that it's been Trumpized.

In my opinion, do NOT change a good thing just to appease the ego of the temporary resident of the White House so that this plane looks like his campaign trail airplane.

All he did was flip the colors 180 degrees, it's so transparent that it's laughable.
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His proposals aren't dreadful. No gold T in site.

You don't see the resemblance?

Turn it upside down.

Trump just unveiled his plan for Air Force One's new paint job, and it looks a lot like his private jet
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-reveals-vision-for-air-force-one-patriotic-paint-job-2019-6
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President Donald Trump is planning a big patriotic paint job for Air Force One, and the radical redesign looks a lot like his private jet.


I think the flag on the vertical stabilizer should have been inverted while they were at it.
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Oh my gosh, if Trump wants it, it must be evil and be stopped at all costs. Trump bad Trump bad!
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You don't see the resemblance?

Turn it upside down.
Are you colorblind? His jets are painted BLACK and red and white, not blue and red and white.
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Are you colorblind? His jets are painted BLACK and red and white, not blue and red and white.
I looked at a lot of photos, I still see it as a navy color similar to the US Flag.

Largest photo I could find is here:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/N757AF_at_LAS.jpg

Maybe you should be the one getting your eyes checked.

Look at the upside down picture again, the man's arms and legs are black, tail part of engines, and so are the aircraft tires black. The upper part of the aircraft body isn't black.
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That the guy has torn himself away from twitter and Fox to tackle it shows us how important this is!!
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I say paint it the US racing colors: white with blue strips.

Otherwise don't change it.
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I looked at a lot of photos, I still see it as a navy color similar to the US Flag.

Largest photo I could find is here:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/N757AF_at_LAS.jpg

Maybe you should be the one getting your eyes checked.

Look at the upside down picture again, the man's arms and legs are black, tail part of engines, and so are the aircraft tires black. The upper part of the aircraft body isn't black.
The upper surface is black. Since you’re an architect, I would expect you to know that photographing the upper half of a highly polished black cylinder from below the midpoint would reflect the color of the sky.

All of Trump’s aircraft are the same colors, including the helicopters. If you don’t believe me, check it out in person. The 757 is generally parked at Stewart airport in New York.
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My vote: Don't change it. I'm a fan of Raymond Lowey.
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Old 06-14-2019, 07:05 AM
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There are many different hues of black, anyone that's selected colors knows this.

There are warm blacks that have a little red in them, and cool blacks that have some blue in them.

A cool black will look a little blue when next to a true black.

You can call it a dark blue or a cool black, the true color does not matter as much as the lighting conditions it will be viewed under. When picking out colors like I have for +100 retail spaces I can tell you this is a consideration.

If I pick out a black and it looks like a dark sepia brown near warm florescent lighting no client wants to hear that it looked black at my office.

Nope, that cool black was selected to look like Navy under those outdoor conditions, it was purposeful I suspect. If not, then it's a heck of a coincidence.

RECAP: It does not matter what color you call it, it matters what it looks like.

People that pick out colors because they like the name over what it looks like are misguided in my opinion. Paint companies do spend a lot of money naming their colors for a reason, and for good reason.

I would rather choose a color called "buttermilk" than a color called "milk gone bad", I'm only human.
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Anyone remember when they were going to make a stealth bomber Air Force 1.
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Anyone remember when they were going to make a stealth bomber Air Force 1.
No, but I still like the 737 idea, for the time being.

Feb 13, 2017
Report Suggests B-21 Bomber, Boeing 737, as New Air Force One
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Back in December, Donald Trump caused a ruckus when he tweeted that the costs for replacing Air Force One jets were "out of control." Now that Trump is in office, Defense Secretary James Mattis has ordered a full review of the $3.2 billion project to find ways to cut back costs. The aviation industry at large has taken notice.

According to Aviation Week, a new report from aerospace and defense analysts has gone so far as to suggest ditching the massive Boeing 747-8 as the airframe for Air Force One and instead modifying another aircraft for presidential use—perhaps Boeing's smaller 737, or even the B-21 stealth bomber still in development by Northrop Grumman.
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Patriotisim?

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There are many different hues of black, anyone that's selected colors knows this
I’ve been an artist for 40+ years, there’s virtually nothing about color you could teach me.

It would be simpler for you to admit that you’re just wrong in this instance.

I’m sorry that it hurts your anti-Trump narrative. (That would be sarcasm.)
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