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speeder 06-21-2019 10:29 PM

On most street vehicles, a pound or two in either direction doesn't matter but consistency L/R on each axle is always important.

dlockhart 06-21-2019 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gary1101 (Post 10499764)
I have a Joes Pro 0-60PSI with hold valve. Very rugged. $50

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I have a Joe's pyrometer for tire temps, and it was one of the tools that told us something was up with my fancy longacre gage. And the pyrometer double checked with the tire guys stuff.

wdfifteen 06-22-2019 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 10498163)
Forget how it's spelled..but "bourdon tube" is the key. Yes, the more expensive dial gauges have them.

I have an Accutire bourdon tube dial gauge that I dropped. After that it read 2 psi when the pressure was 0. I opened it up and saw that the linkage between the bourdon tube and the dial needle appeared to be designed to be adjusted by bending a link. I adjusted it to read 0 at 0 and "calibrated" it by comparing it to a couple of other gauges. All were in agreement within about 1 psi. (Edited from previous post.)

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/tire-pressure-gauges/buying-guide/index.htm

wdfifteen 06-22-2019 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 10499862)
with in 10% is OK for your Schwinn or a model T

Typo - it was supposed to read 1 psi.

rusnak 06-22-2019 04:31 AM

Ah. Rubbin's racin'. And racin' guys spend I would hope more than $70 on a tire gauge. It seems to me if you're going for tenths of a pound, then you are limiting yourself right off the bat to digital pressure gauges that have been tested. I mean it would seem logical to not reach for the old school free O'Reily's stick tire gauge and then be disappointed/ shocked.

herr_oberst 06-22-2019 10:16 AM

Just tested 3 of mine. I was not pleased with the results, but like many here have said, a man with more than one is never sure....

pwd72s 06-22-2019 10:27 AM

Maybe I should buy another, so I can become confused?

masraum 06-22-2019 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 10500106)
Just tested 3 of mine. I was not pleased with the results, but like many here have said, a man with more than one is never sure....

I hope that if you've got 3 or more, that you have a majority that agree, ie, 2:1 or something like that. Then you at least stand a better chance of the 2 being right or closer to right.

RWebb 06-22-2019 12:02 PM

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/994611

herr_oberst 06-22-2019 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10500164)
I hope that if you've got 3 or more, that you have a majority that agree, ie, 2:1 or something like that. Then you at least stand a better chance of the 2 being right or closer to right.

Nope, hence my disappointment, and 2 of the instruments are fairly expensive so I was expecting that they would be within a small percentage.



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red-beard 06-22-2019 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 10498283)
It is very unlikely that any measuring device you own is calibrated properly.

A cheap tire gauge? Nope.
An expensive tire gauge? Maybe. But not if it's old.
A sweep style meter? No.
Torque wrench? No.
Vernier? Probably okay.
Micrometer? Likely okay.
Ohmmeter? Likely no.

You should not be surprised.

Hence my issues with inflate-gate. They used an uncalibrated car type electric pump in a heated bathroom.

afterburn 549 06-22-2019 01:13 PM

To reiterate,-
I was quite shocked and surprised as my old stand-by which was over 30 bucks back in the day and the other five gauges could find no agreement.
None.
It may, in fact, be right..but compared to what when I get the new gauge?
Will I now have seven gauges that have dysentery derivative dysfunctional psychopathic skill set?
(sort of like those that came up here from the bowls to add their two cents of drool)
There seems to be just no way of calibrating without a 5000.00 dollar machine.
Something so simple sometimes just is not.

If I could find three or four that read close to the same perhaps they would be right...but that is just betting on an average and not a sure thing.

masraum 06-22-2019 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 10500223)
If I could find three or four that read close to the same perhaps they would be right...but that is just betting on an average and not a sure thing.

True. That's usually good enough for me, but then I've apparently been lucky enough to get several that seemed pretty close.

Yeah, it certainly doesn't seem like an easy thing to fix if you want to get something calibrated.

Did you change your avatar? It seems different to me.

masraum 06-22-2019 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 10500283)
Hypothetically speaking, if you're traveling from NY to CA, would you lower the pressures on the left side to compensate for the sun?

silly I know, but a few laps on a track can change pressure by quite a few lbs... is the actual number that is critical?

I think the sun makes very, very little difference. Most of the heat in the tires comes from the deformation of the tire as it rolls down the road. Assuming you're going in a straight line on a good road with a relatively symmetric load side to side on the tires, they'll gain pressure pretty equally.

unclebilly 06-22-2019 04:53 PM

Gauge accuracy is usually 2-3% of full scale. A 100psi gauge would have 2-3 psi of error.

This was fun for me in my previous life. I invented a oilfield completion system that opened based on pressure down hole. Here are the variables... the accuracy of the gauge on the pressure truck they use to open these, the density of the fluid in the wellbore (is it fresh water, brine, KCl water, etc).

Regardless, this system has 30% market share in North America and even higher in Russia and other parts of the world...

Rawknees'Turbo 06-22-2019 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 10500168)
TFSTTTT, right? :D

Exactly, ya' big ol' spanner!!! :)

rusnak 06-22-2019 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 10500283)
Hypothetically speaking, if you're traveling from NY to CA, would you lower the pressures on the left side to compensate for the sun?

silly I know, but a few laps on a track can change pressure by quite a few lbs... is the actual number that is critical?

Don't forget elevation changes. A curve like Turn 8, 8A and 9 at Laguna Seca can cause your tires to change psi and hence throw you off the gawdarn track!!


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