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McLovin 09-09-2019 07:35 PM

Taycan Turbo and Turbo S - WTF?!?
 
I don’t follow modern Porsches at all, so when I read an article about the Taycan I was seriously confused for a bit.

Yes, it’s Porsche’s full electric, Tesla competition. I thought I knew that.

But then I read that there are 2 models, the Taycan Turbo and the Taycan Turbo S.

Huh??

That is totally bizarre. I can’t even imagine how anyone thought that naming an electric, (obviously) non-turbo car a “Turbo” is a good idea.

That being said, I guess 95% of buyers won’t see the issue and will tell people how fast their Taycan is because of the “Turbo.”

And they can one-up Tesla. For all the tech Tesla’s have, they aren’t turbo-charged! So take that Elon!

sc_rufctr 09-09-2019 07:42 PM

Agreed... Stupid decision but the top of the line 911 was always the turbo so maybe that's their angle.

ZAMIRZ 09-09-2019 07:45 PM

In Porsche speak, Turbo is a trim level now since all the 911s and 718s besides some GT models are turbocharged.

Brando 09-09-2019 07:56 PM

So where's the turbocharger?

porsche4life 09-09-2019 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZAMIRZ (Post 10587489)
In Porsche speak, Turbo is a trim level now since all the 911s and 718s besides some GT models are turbocharged.

Exactly. Still sounds stupid.


Elon already tweeted them making fun of it. 🤣🤣🤣

Geronimo '74 09-09-2019 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 10587558)
Exactly. Still sounds stupid.


Elon already tweeted them making fun of it. 🤣🤣🤣

I agree, sounds silly.


Looking forward to Elon's trip to the ring.

masraum 09-10-2019 03:41 AM

Calling a car with no turbo a turbo is silly, especially for Porsche.

I guess they could call one an S and the other the RS, but then the R seems a little silly too.

I guess they couldn't have named one an S and then the other the SS. That probably would have been bad.

GH85Carrera 09-10-2019 05:18 AM

Hey, they call the car a Tyacan, that is a really stupid name.

Then they stick Turbo on it. The marketing department is in charge of selling it, and I sure hope they have no influence in the engineering of it.

I really wish Porsche would get away from the silly names and go back to numbers.

I have been a Porshe owner since 1974. I still have to stop and think before I say Cayman or Cayenne. Porsche has great vehicles, but horrible name conventions.

Tervuren 09-10-2019 06:00 AM

Many many years ago, I had someone observe that when I shifted gears in my electric RC race gear that I was putting it into "turbo mode".

I often get in arguments when some one asks turbo vs supercharger for forced induction. Well...for forced induction the turbo is a supercharge. It is a turbine driven supercharge. The question isn't turbo vs supercharge but what drive type for the supercharger.

Anyway...

Back before they figured out to drive a high RPM centrifugal supercharger by an exhaust turbine they were using the turbine to raise torque output of the engine through a transmission to the output shaft of radial airplane engines.

High RPM turbine to low RPM shaft, low RPM shaft to high RPM Compressor.

Someone got the bright idea high RPM turbine to high RPM compressor.

And thus was born the Turbine driven Supercharger.

Shortened to Turbo Supercharger.

Shortened to Turbocharger.

When it comes to computers, the practice of overclocking specific cores while leaving the cores around it inactive for thermal balance is known as turboing for higher clockspeed.

GH85Carrera 09-10-2019 06:13 AM

Taycan Turbo and Turbo S - WTF?!?
 
Back in the Stone Age of computing, the first games played at a certain speed based on CPU clock speed. Later CPUs would make the game play at way too fast of a pace. So computers had a button to slow the cpu process speed to make the games playable. No one wants a button called slow down, so they called it turbo mode. The computer was at full speed in turbo mode, and slowed down at game speed. Pure marketing.

LEAKYSEALS951 09-10-2019 06:21 AM

It would be interesting if they programmed driver selectable optional turbo-esque lag/acceleration modes into the newer cars- for example "935 mode" Persponally, I'd keep mine in 924 NA mode.

herr_oberst 09-10-2019 06:29 AM

Taycan, Macan, Panamera
These are strange nonsense words that don't fall off my tongue easily.

I'm not the target market anymore, and Porsche and the VW group don't care if I care that they've designated electric vehicle models with a Turbo or a Turbo S to delineate the various trim levels....

sammyg2 09-10-2019 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McLovin (Post 10587480)
I don’t follow modern Porsches at all, so when I read an article about the Taycan I was seriously confused for a bit.

Yes, it’s Porsche’s full electric, Tesla competition. I thought I knew that.

But then I read that there are 2 models, the Taycan Turbo and the Taycan Turbo S.

Huh??

That is totally bizarre. I can’t even imagine how anyone thought that naming an electric, (obviously) non-turbo car a “Turbo” is a good idea.

That being said, I guess 95% of buyers won’t see the issue and will tell people how fast their Taycan is because of the “Turbo.”

And they can one-up Tesla. For all the tech Tesla’s have, they aren’t turbo-charged! So take that Elon!

That's Porsche's way of telling us they think their customers are dumb.
Why else would anyone spend $100k for a $50k car?

sc_rufctr 09-10-2019 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 10587558)
Exactly. Still sounds stupid.


Elon already tweeted them making fun of it. 🤣🤣🤣

Elon nailed it but he's always been a car guy. Me thinks the younger generation doesn't care...

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Sarc 09-10-2019 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZAMIRZ (Post 10587489)
In Porsche speak, Turbo is a trim level now

Just like the Turbo moniker is used on other appliances; vacuum cleaners, tools, etc.
Hilarious and unfortunate at the same time....but in the end no big deal (just the Taycan itself will be in generations to come).

masraum 09-10-2019 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 10587756)
Taycan, Macan, Panamera
These are strange nonsense words that don't fall off my tongue easily.

I'm not the target market anymore, and Porsche and the VW group don't care if I care that they've designated electric vehicle models with a Turbo or a Turbo S to delineate the various trim levels....

Panamera is shorter and less likely to cause issues than the name that it was taken from which is "Carrera Panamericana" which Porsche has history with. Panamera seems like a decent shortened version of the name.

Per wikipedia
Quote:

The "Macan" model name was decided in 2012. This is the Javanese word for tiger.

The Macan was originally known by its code name Cajun, a portmanteau of Cayenne Junior
According to Porsche
Quote:

The name translates as “lively young horse”, referencing the center of the Porsche crest."
Are these names any less strange or nonsensical than many car names have been over the years?

Gogar 09-10-2019 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 10587811)



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Zeke 09-10-2019 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 10587756)
Taycan, Macan, Panamera
These are strange nonsense words that don't fall off my tongue easily.

I'm not the target market anymore, and Porsche and the VW group don't care if I care that they've designated electric vehicle models with a Turbo or a Turbo S to delineate the various trim levels....

I can see a reference to Pan American. Supposedly "Macan" means tiger in Indonesian. When I first heard the name I thought of some kind of monkey.

Taycan is out there. I guess you'd have to have a German mind. ;)

ZAMIRZ 09-10-2019 08:12 AM

I think the model names are cool and they've done a good job of making them all sound like they're from the same family, and the 911 will always be 911, so it's all good. I'm in prime new-Porsche demographic, although I suspect many others in this thread (on this forum for the most part) are not.

GH85Carrera 09-10-2019 08:19 AM

Like the post above mentioned the Macan was originally going to be called the Cajun. The Germans engineers and workers could not pronounce the hard J and they kept calling it the Cayoon. So the name was changed.

flipper35 09-10-2019 08:27 AM

Porsche also made fun of the word Autopilot as used by Tesla. They all play word games. Maybe the Tucan uses ram air to power a centrifugal turbine for the HVAC fan.

Zeke 09-10-2019 08:27 AM

An interesting thought: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/turbo-electric

944 S2 09-10-2019 08:36 AM

I ordered the 6 speed!

carbeiter 09-10-2019 08:48 AM

Taycan, Macan, Cajun, Cayenne. Porsche lineup is sounding like a South American zoo.
But I'm ok with the Turbo on an all electric car because nothing means anything anymore in marketing.
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sc_rufctr 09-10-2019 08:58 AM

Dude, you've been here for over 5 years and yet you've only made 6 posts?

I feel privileged... ;)

Synchro Joe 09-10-2019 09:07 AM

So, maybe they're planning on running the turbine powered charger off the overheating batteries and use the resulting hot air to power the defroster or something? Hmmm

McLovin 09-10-2019 09:13 AM

Or maybe they’ll be equipped with the E-ram!
I think turbo is fine on a vacuum cleaner or computer, that’s obviously silly marketing.
But calling a non turbo car a turbo is just weird.
Esp. for a company like Porsche. I could see GM or some bizarro Chinese car maker doing that. But it’s not a very Germanic thing to do.

Sarc 09-10-2019 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McLovin (Post 10587920)
But it’s not a very Germanic thing to do.

The Germanicness started leaving the station long ago for many German marques.

sc_rufctr 09-10-2019 11:25 AM

They're also generating "engine noise" at low speeds for safety. That Jetsons sound? ;)

Geronimo '74 09-10-2019 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10587854)
Like the post above mentioned the Macan was originally going to be called the Cajun. The Germans engineers and workers could not pronounce the hard J and they kept calling it the Cayoon. So the name was changed.

That seems very unlikely to me.

widebody911 09-10-2019 11:38 AM

e-Ram?

widebody911 09-10-2019 11:39 AM

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KFC911 09-10-2019 11:44 AM

Tax .... TurboTax!

Jims5543 09-10-2019 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 10588105)

Ha!! I had a "AT" with a Turbo button!!


I think they should bring back some old acronyms. SC would be perfect, as in Super Capacitor, then add one that can work like a push to pass type of deal that would be charged first with the regenerative brakes.

Maybe have it add 50 more HP to the car with the push of a button and lasts for 5-10 seconds.

GH85Carrera 09-10-2019 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 10588097)
That seems very unlikely to me.

One of the factory speakers at Porsche Parade mentioned that story in the speech one evening. When the vehicle was first announced they called it the Cajun before it was released. One year later as they were close to production cars they talked about the new name, and why the change.

I has been several years, maybe it was some other market and not the Germans that pronounced it wrong. But it was because of the J getting pronounced wrong.

herr_oberst 09-10-2019 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10587826)
Panamera is shorter and less likely to cause issues than the name that it was taken from which is "Carrera Panamericana" which Porsche has history with. Panamera seems like a decent shortened version of the name.

I grew up saying Panamericana or Panamerica because I was reading about the race down in Mexico in Road & Track and Car and Driver.
Panamera to me is truncated and difficult to pronounce.
Macan is a noise a bird makes and
Taycan sounds like some hillbilly idiom.

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Zeke 09-10-2019 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geronimo '74 (Post 10588097)
That seems very unlikely to me.

Well, in case it is true, there won't be a German model named Geronimo.

stealthn 09-10-2019 02:52 PM

It’s about as stupid as the prices they are asking for them...

Tervuren 09-10-2019 03:06 PM

In my opinion, all these names look very nice in the Porsche font as a model name.

The weak name that looks odd to me compared to the others is Boxster.

The new ones flow better visually.

I think Panamera is a great name for a Porsche model. The truncated version fits in well with Carrera.


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