If you can't beat them, join them!! Take a few weeks off work, get some buddies (bigger is better) and move right in. You're now a room mate. Be the most obnoxious roomy you can be. When they tire of you, and try to remove you from the property, charge them with assault. Make their life a living hell. Have some fun with it. Your brother did say you could stay at his place anytime you wanted didn't he?

I'm reading all this in awe...sorry about your situation and I really hope you get through this. Sorry for the loss of your brother.

Party at raps house !

I'd start by putting by the neighbor's toter in front of their driveway....that'll teach 'em :)!

Party @ Rap's...pass it on!

I seem to remember hearing about some low-lifes who were forced out, and before they left they filled all the toilets and drains with cement.
Very expensive.

And here's the funny part, if you shoot them dead YOU get in trouble. I know huh?

I wonder how long it will be before CA gives tent city folks squatters rights? How about the ones that pitch a tent on the sidewalk in front of your business?

its already here. Was chatting with my housing inspector a few weeks back. A cop can't just go into a tent and search if the tent is on a public place like a park. They need a warn.

Seattle.
Public parks are now homeless camps.

Last time I was at Gasworks park is the last time I'll be at Gasworks park.

Used to be a great study break when I was at SPU. No more.

I understand about the homeless camps and tent cities. My concern is the next step will be that tent will have squatters rights and you are obligated to provide them use the electric, water, whatever as with the problem with homeowners who are being taken advantage of by squatters.

There are already talks of building homeless building mixed in regular folks. I think its already happening? I have not kept up with the latest and the greatest.

The other talk was building clinics for the bums so they can regular their illegal drug use to prevent OD. What a bunch of fooked up nut jobs

I picture the CA socialists passing laws making it illegal to "evict" someone who pitched a tent in your yard and plugged into your outdoor outlet (except if you live in a gated community...).

about 2 years ago, one of our neighbor down the hill with a pretty good size property, corner lot, big bamboos covering a pretty good size of the corner. House sits on top of the hill so the owners can't really see into the area between the bamboos. There were bums living in there going through a gap to get at the center of this little paradise. I see them sometimes as I drive up the hill. someone posted about the bums living in the yard and tried to notify the owners. Some of the fooking nut job left (lots of Behind the scene hollywood type, writers and editors and such) wing posted about leave the bums alone and let live. Finally the owner got wind of it and decided o thin out the bomb and cops were called to get rid of them. What a screwed up way of thinking. I wonder what they will say if they were in their property playing slip and fall? I bet that tune will change fast.

jeezuz fk'ng christ. Does California have to ruin every one of its redeeming qualities?

Feces maps? Free rent at the owners expense? Highest utilities cost in the country that black out and catch fire? The most homeless? The highest gas prices? I could go on but I would hope you get the picture.

Why do you people continue to vote for morons who take your money? Do you all work for the state government, Caltrans or PG&E and plan to move out when you retire? What will be left?

Its all that talent.

And means, don't forget that too!

you guys are mean

funny stuff
(good thing cacti don't grow there)

Zeke I would respectfully disagree- who's "running things" is responsible for situations like this. You reap what you sow.

This isn't drama it's real life. As a former owner of rental properties I've dealt with much the same thing.

All this does is employ bureaucrats and lawyers and promote the anarchy of deadbeats. The honest and hardworking are losing their rights.

Milt,

I apologize if you had the impression I was trying to dramatize things by pointing out that the laws here appear to be biased against landlords. A consequence of this is that it makes it more challenging for a rental property to be a money making proposition here. I think there are a number of other respondents to the thread that concur with this assessment.

I read all my posts. Would you be able to point out where I mention who is running things in any of them? I think I was maybe the only person who did not, including you.

Oh yeah, came to post this

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I own a few SFR rentals as well as a commercial property and a business in CA so you can call me crazy if you want...

Regardless, let me tell you this: the crazy crap in CA spreads to every other state.

Think I'm wrong? Try buying an old fashioned gas can in the other 49 states. More than likely you'll end up with only the idiotic vapor recovery nozzle cans that started in CA!

Yep, you are correct, Dave. Its spreading like wild fire already. Oregon, Phoenix and a couple of places already have rent control. It will continue to infect the nation. I hate to see that. Been thinking selling some of them and buy something commercial or apt. in Texas but management will be a pita

In texas if they don’t get out we shoot em and stack the bodies like firewood
Tony

Timely article has really scary news for CA landlords:
the proposed legislation says that RENT CONTROL will fix the homeless problem. :eek:
The op ed clearly explains why this is a bad idea.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/jim-breslo-calif-gov-newsom-uses-homeless-crisis-to-justify-statewide-rent-control-law

Yeah, that mother fooker needs to die of slow death tied to a bed that will last 10 years in some hell hole so he can rot slowly.

Did I say I really dislike him?

I had a former tenant in my rental that wouldn't leave. He knew the landlord tenant laws and I was young and dumb. I was pretty frustrated until I decided to rent a room in the house to a guy I knew with 2 mean dogs. I really like dogs but these dogs scared me. The former tenant moved out 2 days later. My friend "moved out" 3 days later since he was only "renting" by the day. I have no idea what went on during the two days.

They put that on the ballot last year. it was voted down almost unanimously.
So the DBs in Sacramento said to heck with the voters, we know what's best for them:

AB-1482 Tenant Protection Act of 2019: tenancy: rent caps.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB1482

Yep, we voted it down all right.

Rent control now only means all tenants have access to free lawyer service to fight owners. They want to take everyone to court, no matter how small the issue, driving cost way up. Most smaller owners can't afford it and are just hanging on one step above dipping into the red. lawyer fees and going to trail will kill em' so they take it in the shorts.

There was a house not far from mine where people had been squatting for a while - the damn bums caught it on fire - twice!

When emailing a friend, I *****ed a bit about the low interest paid on a CD Cindy & I bought. He wrote back, suggesting we buy a rental house, "buy some dirt".

I answered by saying I'd rather be eaten by a goat and crapped over a cliff than ever be a landlord again.

That is why you have a property manager Paul, and no rental properties in California or Oregon

And it's not just tenants' rights legislation that spreads from CA to the other 49. I travel quite bit across the country, and I'm shocked at how often I see other states adopting California's clearly flawed policies.

This may sound hard to believe, but after nearly 20 years of landlording, some of them were really bad years, with really crappy tenants, and not making a penny during those years, I actually enjoy being a landlord.
The learning curve is steep, and there are always lousy situations that pop up, but , once you know the laws, and what is expected from you, it gets easier.
I think I/we have made nearly every landlord mistake, and or learned most every lesson the hard way, but it feels like we have it under control now .
I get a certain high from evicting bad tenants, rehabbing a crappy property and turning it around , and making into a good property . Its kind of like turning a rusty old pick up truck into a workhorse .
My wife and I just finished up , and rented #5, This will be the first time in all our years, that we have full tenancy with good paying rents, and decent tenants. Boy has it been a ride though .
I can also see the money starting to pile up .
I just cannot see rent control happening here. I hope I am right about that . Rents are finally up in our area .

I hope you're right Fred!

Paul,

Managing property isn't the job for everyone. It takes a special person that can take a lot of crap from dead beats, stupid folks and are willing to drive out to the property and solve issues. I have a friend who inherited a bunch of apartment buildings from her folks and grand parents. Parents set it up with the management company for her before they passed. She dealt with it for a couple of years and ended up selling all of it only because she can't handle the stress of dealing with the management co. and everything associated with the rentals. The tax she had to pay on it boggles my mind. She's happy as a make up artist for the studios and spends that money like if there's no tomorrow (millions).

At the end of the day, its a job just like any other but the flexibility of this job is pretty darn good compare to many others. Its a simple way to build wealth.

I enjoy it. We try and fix problems before they arise and screen and weed out the bad apples. I have been sue by one of the tenant at the end of his term. It was no fun, but I paid him off so he left. He came with the building so due to rent control, I couldn't get him out. He threaten me with letter from his lawyer stating that the grass was not cut to his satisfaction, an 1" too long. He back charged me for all the years he lived there since the building changed hands. It came out to be 6500 dollars he wanted. I can fight and win in court, I think? My wife was pissed. Me, I was very happy to pay him so he goes away. He stiffed me my last month's rent of 850 bucks. As soon as he left, we gutted the place, remodeled it and rented it out to a couple of USC law students from Brazil for market rate at 2400.00. they have been wonderful for the past two years. No drama. Thank goodness, so we really take care of them.

Its seem that the trend is if you are low income or rent, then they are owe something and the gov must step in to protect em' from those bad land lords.

Oh yeah, its spreading to many other places.

Same here. I did the landlord thing once, I was really happy when I sold that place.
Never again.

I just signed and mailed the paper work for authorization to be the administrator of my deceased brother's estate. Probate hearing will be coming up to transfer the title
His toxicology results came back from the coroner ...
High levels of Amphetamine and methamphetamine. His choice.
The lawyer has advised me to stay clear of the house until I have legal authorization to basically become my brother on a temporary basis.

I can't inventory his belongings yet. Meanwhile the "Invited guests" are using meth.

I was thinking of "unlawful detention" or "ex parte" because my 93 yr old Father lives next door and is alone 20 hours a day. A public school, K thru 6th grade is exactly 100 yards away.

The one thing I don't want to do is end up getting arrested.

Out here in California, you can't make any mistakes. Tenants, Squatters, homeless, druggies and
everyone that isn't as privileged as you are victims of society failing them.
Gonna be a long haul but I'll get the house empty in a year or so.

I'd probably get arrested in CA, but that would never happen to me here. If my dad lived next door....all bets are OFF :(.

They'd be gone....period.

Best of luck Rap...

If you know or highly suspect the " tenants " are using meth or other drugs can't you call the police and ask for them to investigate ?