I like Clarkson's axiom on this matter. I basically have around 300,000 to 400,000 hours left before I die. I don't want to waste any of that time waiting for my car to be ready so that I can go where I want to be.

Isn't that what we did as kids? Waited for the toy car to charge so we can go out and play? I don't need a pet car that needs so much care. I don't even charge my phone every day, let alone wait to use it after it has charged.

You remind me of the old gal at ASU that yelled at me for idling my turbo diesel. Something about sustainability, and my gross polluter. She drove a leaf.

The useful part has already been discussed. When you can drive 400 +miles, fill up in less than 5 minutes and do another 400+ miles. Let alone tow anything useful. Lmk

Here's Exxon Mobil's outlook on energy over the next 20 years. Coal is not the major energy source, worldwide.

2019 Outlook for Energy: A Perspective to 2040


You will notice there is only one energy type in decline dropping to under 20% worldwide by 2040. The U.S. will be under 5% by then.

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2040 in Germany for example is the end of ICE.


I'm shocked CA hasn't followed suit with the same timeline. The last bill died quietly.

As if EV's don't have enough planning and management already. sheesh.

I have a bunch of cordless drills and even more batteries that need EOL management. A bunch of cameras, and even more batteries. I write the date purchased on those. Laptops and tablets... I can't imagine the management, trying to eek out all the use of a $40,000 battery pack. And then you want to cycle it for grid porpoising? Yeah, no thanks.

Yes, demand projections are a possibility. Today, as in right now, coal burning in power plants supplies the majority of the worlds power.

Tis also amusing to those of us still driving classic cars to hear haters telling us they are obsolete and we aren’t wokesters. A really good solution to those who like EVs is simply to buy one and only crow about them when asked.

Why would you lie when the 2017 column clearly shows coal is not the majority. Are you blind? Are you stupid? I don't understand how you can say that or why you would say that when you just have to look at the columns. Here, let me help you. Orange is coal, Green is oil. Which is bigger? Orange or Green? Take your time and don't rush but let us all know which one is bigger, Orange or Green. I've also put an arrow pointing to 2017 to help you out. So did you lie or are you stupid?

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Who is doing that? Please point out the post.

Most of the threads here that mention EVs have TESLA or VOLT in the thread title. If you don't like EV owners talking about their cars you can simply not click on the links. When you see TESLA or VOLT in a thread title, you might want to just pass that thread by.

Why do I remind you of this person?

ICE bad. EV good.

The argument on this thread has been bashing of telsa, and musk. Let alone the fed incentive, or that crazy ev charging building code. We're bashing EV b/c of the implementation of legislation that is forcing to accept a product that is not fully capable to self sustain. Natural disaster hits where you don't have power for 7-30 days. EV have a niche role to play in transportation of high density living. But so do small diesels engines that are capable of 50 mpg that for some reason are banned in this country. *cough* thanks CA *cough*

Not sure why you think I’m lying. Triggered much? The data for 2018 is below. It’s all over the net. Get a grip man....




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I'm triggered by stupid people, yes. That's the number one problem with the internet. Stupid people get to post right alongside intelligent people. It used to be stupid people knew their place and no harm was done. The good old days.

Your unattributed chart shows oil at 34% and coal at 27%. I'm not sure why you posted it other than to prove my point. Thank you!SmileWavy

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If we look at worldwide total energy it is oil, though not a majority.

If we look at worldwide electrical production it is coal at about 40% of total production. Still not a majority.

Nah, proves my point in that we are talking clean vs dirty energy. Oil is combined with coal by most reasonable people.

No, it just proves you are stupid. Nothing more.

^violently agree.

I think the new EV tech is very cool and promising. Someday I may own one. Planning to drive the '98 Benz Turbodiesel into the ground first.

I've never said that, so there is no reason for me to remind you of people who do. In fact, of those who post here who own electrics, I can't recall a single one of them saying ICE is bad. We've mostly talked about our experiences with EVs.

Don't want to go to PARF, but I didn't see this coming; it seems like Trump is a fan of Musk, rockets, Edison, and whoever invented the wheel:


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Seriously? Take a deep breath and calm the fk down.

Coal, Oil and natural gas are all in the same category. -mined hydrocarbons.

Coal is a solid form of gooey oil, and nat gas is the farts of oil and coal. All compressed hydrocarbon.

The world burns hydrocarbons for energy far above nuke and hydro.

So if you think that the world will NOT get electric car power primarily from "dead dino's" then you are the the weakest link.