Coal is just dried oil.

Count me in as one of them. I commute daily in my Tesla. I probably have an above average commute anywhere outside the LA area. I preheat my car in the morning when its plugged in, I precool my car in the afternoon, right before I leave work. If I'm being honest, I probably accelerate more often and aggressively because it's just so damn fun. I drive it home, run whatever errands I need to and park it with more then 150 miles of range left. The next day the cycle repeats. I have zero range anxiety and dont worry about the life of the batteries anymore then I worried about the engine in my GT350 when I ran it to its 8K redline, which I guarantee I did at least once everytime I drove it.

Are EVs the answer. I dont know, I personally didnt buy my car in an attempt to save money or save the environment. I bought it because I liked the way it looked, drove one and thought, Wow, this is different, I kinda dig it. After over 10K miles, I still really dig it and it just works well.

It's funny, you very rarely hear criticisms from people who actually use them. But if your someone who actually has one, uses it and enjoys it, your just a Tesla fanboy.

When I work out of downtown LA, I take mine up and over Angeles Crest/Angeles Forest everyday. Havent had an issue yet.

Curious is that loop a typical commuter loop, or a fun weekend type drive. I'm not familiar with the area, so I'm Just curious about the mileage. For sure there are plenty of loops down here that we routinely do on our motorcycles or sports cars, that would be a PITA, if not impossible to do in an electric car.

Also I'd pick a Tesla M3 performance over the Alfa at the track. It would do just fine. Guys are doing 20 minute track sessions down here at buttonwillow raceway.

Wow, that's interesting. Never heard of that. Every new home built in California has to have solar now. I wonder if eventually it will be solar and a car charger in the garage....

Agreed, in fact I've seen charts with Oil and Coal labeled separately, because, well, they are completely different things and other charts made by stupid people with labels Wet Oil and Dry Oil.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1579803103.jpg

I guess the weather is not so good there, but even then, this is a bit uncalled for


There are a lot more Chinese than anyone else, and they are increasing their coal generating capacity, so I would tend to be a bit skeptical about the accuracy of those predictions.

I understand your point and would agree except he doubled down on being wrong. You know I live in my own meritocracy and have no tolerance for stupid people. They are ruining our country.

The clementines are fantastic with honey drizzled on them, thanks again!SmileWavy

Guaranteed you've never driven one......funny, like it or not, some people still think rap music is just a fad as well....

It already does a version of this. I have a departure time and address set. When I get in the car. Its already preheated or cooled and Navigation is set. Its preset with a time to start charging and amount of charge I want.

Little doubt electric cars are here to stay, and they are great machines. I very much disaprove of the billions of dollars in tax incentives (my tax dollars) used to make Tesla even available. And then on top of that, the individuals that get a tax write off for buying an electric car.

It is even stupider than the huge tax incentives we give to the corn growers so we can burn food in our cars.

Porsche is bringing out the Tycan and we will all have to wait to see how it sells. At least they did not get a few billion of my tax dollars to develop it.

No kidding. I've found out my car isn't practical, I'm risking my life just driving one and the one that's really funny on a Porsche forum.....that people only buy them as a status symbol.....

Serious question. do you do all that with your LS1 powered 928S in your signature?

And most of us own one or more ICE vehicles and have zero plans to get rid of them.. .

Nearly half of all EV sales in the US (2018) are in Cali. 153,000 out of a total 328,000. Oklahoma sold a whopping 2683 which put Oklahoma in the top half of sales by state. A 250% increase over 2017. The highest rate of increase by any state. Lack of fueling stations off of the interstates turns many buyers off of the purchase in Okla. Our inexpensive fuel makes payback a far longer process.

Very high fuel taxes and high wealth allow Cali buyers a better chance to purchase and get a payback. Far more charging stations in California make fueling less painstaking.

https://evadoption.com/ev-market-share/ev-market-share-state/

just chill with the fake "facts"


https://www.worldcoal.org/coal/uses-coal/coal-electricity

ok, that is from the coal industry

Electricity ... the stuff which powers the electric cars.

38% is not a majority.

It is a major part but not a majority.

Yes, 38% is definitely a major portion not minor.

Coal is cheap.

NG is killing coal in the US.

US is not the problem.

China is. The electric cars over there are not going to help.