Finally read the article I would have written

[Mahler9th]

Need to confirm... but it appears that Italy is reporting 8 day average from symptoms showing to death in their data. And NJ is reporting 50% hospitalization among cases... apparently tracking much higher than NY which I think was reported today at 23%

[wayner]

Originally Posted by tcar

This is puzzling.

As we all know, ANTIBIOTICS are useless in the treatment of viral diseases such as the flu...

They only work with bacterial infections, not viruses.

pneumonia is often bacterial, and comes at stage 3 of the virus once the damage has been done.
Thats why ventilators seem to be so necessary with this virus.


"Pneumonia is a lung disease characterized by inflammation of the airspaces in the lungs, most commonly due to an infection. Pneumonia may be caused by viral infections, bacterial infections, or fungi; less frequently by other causes. The most common bacterial type that causes pneumonia is Streptococcus pneumoniae."

"Most pneumonia occurs when a breakdown in your body's natural defenses allows germs to invade and multiply within your lungs. To destroy the attacking organisms, white blood cells rapidly accumulate. Along with bacteria and fungi, they fill the air sacs within your lungs (alveoli)."

[Tobra]

Opportunistic infection, maybe bacterial, maybe fungal, either way, all bad.

Interesting that anti malarial drugs seem to help.

[wayner]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

I understand the need to be overly cautious because of potential risk but there is no solid data on who is infected already, how long the person is a carrier, and how long it takes to recover. Are we call going to shut down the economy for 6 months?

Two weeks!!

If everyone would stay put, two weeks!

Otherwise I'll go with your six month guess.

[wayner]

Originally Posted by Mahler9th

Need to confirm... but it appears that Italy is reporting 8 day average from symptoms showing to death in their data. And NJ is reporting 50% hospitalization among cases... apparently tracking much higher than NY which I think was reported today at 23%

50%?
uh oh...

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by tcar

This is puzzling.

As we all know, ANTIBIOTICS are useless in the treatment of viral diseases such as the flu...

They only work with bacterial infections, not viruses.

viral resp. infections often lead to secondary bacterial infections

[Eric Coffey]

Originally Posted by McLovin

If I were a Stanford epidemiology professor

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/

Good stuff. Thanks for posting.

[brainz01]

Originally Posted by McLovin

If I were a Stanford epidemiology professor

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/

Agreed with the others. This is a useful counterpoint.

I'm increasingly in the camp that thinks that the response may be worse than the disease. A credit-based global economy does not suffer prolonged shutdowns well at all. The costs of such damage are huge and no doubt include indirect mortality.

[dafischer]

Originally Posted by Mahler9th

And NJ is reporting 50% hospitalization among cases... apparently tracking much higher than NY which I think was reported today at 23%

Do you have a link to back that up? I live in NJ and have seen nothing resembling that statistic.