Why did the mutt dog thread get closed?

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by DanielDudley

OK your thread is open.

Good job!

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951

BOB!!! Please forgive me!!! PLEASE!!!! One day my CIS will give out and you are my only hope! (seriously) I'll send you flowers!

(or copious amounts of beer)

I told you not to go there.

No more Triffid jokes and we might be cool.

I need a couple of days.

[john70t]

The used car market will be the first stressed in this glut of millions of unsold new cars market.
And this aftermarket website will probably feel the economic brunt first.

Thank you PP for providing the emotional sandbox. fwiw.

[speeder]

Sounds fair enough to me.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by DanielDudley

FWIW, if a post is reported, it goes straight to the top. The people who keep this forum running have a lot to do, and I don't think they want to deal with personal complaints. But they will. And I expect it gets old, seeing the same people doing the same things over and over again.

If anyone was keeping stats, you would soon see a few obvious patterns. Don't become another statistic. I don't hand out infractions, and I am just trying to keep people out of trouble. But for every thread I moderate, 10 others get handled by people way above my pay grade.

If you are pissed off because you don't have the freedom here to say what you please, consider that Wayne isn't here, and he hasn't got your back. I would like to have your back, but I am only on a few times a day. If I can't get you where you need to be before someone reports you, it is out of my hands. People are not out to get you. People are tired of hearing people complain about you.

I know you guys. I'm not tired of you. Other people who are really busy stopping hackers and spammers just so you can bicker and stir stuff up are probably getting a little tired of it.

Nobody else is going to tell you this. Post in the appropriate forum, stop arguing, and don't poke the bear. I am not the bear. People have contacted me about various things, to see if I was responsible. You know when I am responsible. My name is right there. If I move a thread to PARF, I'm doing you a favor. If someone else moves it, and you are the cause, you are not doing yourself any favors.

Now if I close this thread, you will think I am screwing you. If I leave this thread open, and it gets out of hand, that would be screwing you. The real people who run this forum just want people to have a good time, and mostly no one is going to spend a lot of time moderating PARF, unless asked. They don't want to ban anybody. But I think that after a while, dealing with the same situations and the same people, they are going to get tired of it.

I think they were hoping that a generally respected person like Zeke could become a moderator and straighten things out. But that didn't happen, and now you have me. But I cannot stop people from reporting posts, and I cannot be around enough to make sure things get taken care of before that happens. Nor am I particularly respected by the people who really need to take this in.

But I'm telling you anyway. The world is changing, and the people who make this forum possible are stressed enough without having to deal with moderating a few people over and over again. Other people who get sucked into the drama are in general not looking for it.

Again. If someone reports a post, it goes straight to the top. Someone else deals with that. If my action are not making you happy, then I am sorry, but there is a lot of moderating that goes on here that I do not do.

And eventually it won't happen for you as well. Look at the record: Z-man and nostatic bailed. I was chastised mainly because these forums are not the stuff of Wayne and the 2 venerable mods that stayed with it for years. It has evolved to the lowest common denominator. When one of those goes away, another takes his place. It stays at an incredibly boorish level. I thought that I could return the place to its former better self. That was the simple product of naiveté.

What I saw in 7 months is the wholesale contempt for other members and the host itself. Not always directly but it is there.

I wish I was able to convey what you have said here. Excellent! I wish you well in all senses. And I have Tom Petty's line in mind when I open Pelican, "Don't come around here no more."

I get a hellova lot more done nowadays.

[KFC911]

Hey Milt ....at least you tried . I had taken a hiatus when you turned in yer badge...but you gave it a shot, and I wish Daniel well in his efforts too. But the overall "tone" of this place has changed over time....it's almost PARF like at times....and that's too bad.

Can you guys hand out bans? Lay out the "new" rules, and dish them out....myself included if it's called for. There are some (a few) who just really enjoy that crap, but most of us just don't and it's not why we come here. That's my take anyways...

A few threads have been moved recently....that's a start and we all know where to go find them if we desire to.

I'm gonna quit rambling now...or just ramble on

....and then there are the Elissa threads

[sammyg2]

Until this thread, I had no idea that Mr. Dudley was a moderator/P.H. here.
In my book that means he's doing a good job.

[KFC911]

He ain't doing nearly enough if we're still here

Zoltan's rule #2

[RWebb]

Hey Milt - I hope you'll fab up a run of those rear bumpers you designed.

Best looking mod I've seen for the 1974-89 cars.