What kind of 220v outlet do you have in your garage?

[ChemMan]

I am having a 220 volt outlet put into my pole barn as part of the remodel. The problem is, I have not owned any 220v equipment and there are several different types of outlets. I am thinking that in time, I would like to learn how to weld so as far as 220 v equipment, that is what I am thinking.

For those of you who have 220 v in your workshop, what kind of outlet do you recommend.

[Bob Kontak]

I have the higher end DIY 220V mig from Home Depot. Around $750 five years ago.

The plug is a standard 220 volt clothes dryer type.

However, if you load "standard 220V dryer receptacle" into google you get all kinds of stuff. Let me take a few pics of the plug and receptacle and I'll post in the morning. I'm sure there's a number on the face of the female plug.

Three prong 30amp.

[908/930]

It would be good to know how many amps the welder is. I have a couple 220v of different amperage one is 15A and two are 30A (NEMA 6-30R). The standard dryer plug has a neutral line that is not usually needed for welders or motors, but works. Make sure if you run extension cords that they are rated to the breaker amperage.

[javadog]

For what it’s worth, it’s really more like 240, than 220. That said, I like the receptacle to match the plug for whatever I’m going to plug into it. Since there’s probably 50 different versions of that, I usually wait to buy the receptacle until after I have bought the device with the plug on the end.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by javadog

I usually wait to buy the receptacle until after I have bought the device with the plug on the end.

+1
Adding the receptacle is the last step. Put the wires in a box, top them off with wire nuts, and wait until you know what plug you'll need.

[Alan A]

Nema 6-50
Same as the welder.
Replugged the compressor so I can switch from one to the other.

[rusnak]

I have a 50-amp 4-wire plug so that I can run a spider box out to the work site with 100 ft long SO cord.

[ChemMan]

Thank you everyone for the replies. I looked at welders online last night and there seems to be a variation in the plugs (for those I would actually find pictures of the plugs). Being that this build is almost done, I just wanted the electrician to finish up, so to speak. I am anxious to have a usable workspace again.
Since I will likely go with something from Home Depot, I will probably go with what Bob has. If you still don't mind posting that picture, Bob, I would greatly appreciate it.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by ChemMan

Thank you everyone for the replies. I looked at welders online last night and there seems to be a variation in the plugs (for those I would actually find pictures of the plugs). Being that this build is almost done, I just wanted the electrician to finish up, so to speak. I am anxious to have a usable workspace again.
Since I will likely go with something from Home Depot, I will probably go with what Bob has. If you still don't mind posting that picture, Bob, I would greatly appreciate it.

No problem. Off to shop in a few after coffee.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Alan A

Nema 6-50
Same as the welder.

You are correct, Sir.

I hung mine on the side of my lift box and tapped into that juice. Pic is upside down to facilitate reading.

[ChemMan]

Thanks Bob. I appreciate you taking the time.

[Bob Kontak]

You are welcome.

Ex-wife's family is from Midland. I hear there is a chemical company there. You affiliated?

[ChemMan]

No. I used to teach chemistry hence the name.

[chrismorse]

There are a couple of variables worth considering. First is the amperage rating of the 240 volt item. You don’t want to melt the wire and start a fire, or constantly trip the breaker trying to pull 40 or 50 Amos through a 10 gage, ( common dryer supply wiring), so size the wire to handle anything you might want to add.

Second, is the possible need of a tool or appliance for a neutral, or ground. It is better to have it and not need it than find some aspect of your equipment won’t work, or lack the safety of a ground.

Another possibility is to size the feed wire so that you could install a small sub panel, allowing you to pull 120 off for lights or a grinder, or beer refrigerator.

Barns have a way of evolving.

To recoup, if you need at least 30 amps, 240, I’d recommend going with the next size up wire, from #10 to #8, minimum, or to a #6 or #4, so you have a little upgrade room, and have a ground brought in as well.
chris

[GH85Carrera]

I have one 220 outlet. It fit my welder. I had to convert the ends on my garage 220 heater and the A/C into to plug into the same socket. I do have an "extension cord" that my father in law made that is the same huge wire that most houses have coming from the transformer to the electric meter. It never even get warm when used.

[Danimal16]

Originally Posted by rusnak

I have a 50-amp 4-wire plug so that I can run a spider box out to the work site with 100 ft long SO cord.

Rusnak, what type spider box are you using?

[ChemMan]

Originally Posted by chrismorse

There are a couple of variables worth considering. First is the amperage rating of the 240 volt item. You don’t want to melt the wire and start a fire, or constantly trip the breaker trying to pull 40 or 50 Amos through a 10 gage, ( common dryer supply wiring), so size the wire to handle anything you might want to add.

Second, is the possible need of a tool or appliance for a neutral, or ground. It is better to have it and not need it than find some aspect of your equipment won’t work, or lack the safety of a ground.

Another possibility is to size the feed wire so that you could install a small sub panel, allowing you to pull 120 off for lights or a grinder, or beer refrigerator.

Barns have a way of evolving.

To recoup, if you need at least 30 amps, 240, I’d recommend going with the next size up wire, from #10 to #8, minimum, or to a #6 or #4, so you have a little upgrade room, and have a ground brought in as well.
chris

Thanks Chris, I will keep this in mind to purchase the equipment I am thinking of. I will need to check with the electrician as to the wire installed.

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by Alan A

Nema 6-50
Same as the welder.
Replugged the compressor so I can switch from one to the other.

This or 6-30.
Welder plug is 50 amp. 6-30r is 30 amp.

30 amp is more than enough unless you're running industrial motors.

[rusnak]

Originally Posted by Danimal16

Rusnak, what type spider box are you using?

I have four. One is a subpanel with a 50-amp in, and 50-amp out and 4 120v quad boxes. It's a piece of flooring painted and mounted on a 4x4 post. That is my home-made one.

Then I have these 3 store-bought ones:

[stomachmonkey]

I upgraded to 221.