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m.2 drive PCIe fast

my computer crashed it's old spinner HD do to the new 2004 w10 update

other then the problems loading a new w10 copy
with a MRB to gtp CONFLICT on an older HD
why I have no idea MS is an odd witch that love to switch stuff

once I got that to load
I decided time for a new SSD
and the samsung 970evo was ordered
it is a new slot called a m.2 and uses the PCIe connection not SATA
THE THING IS SMALL AND VERY VERY FAST

it loads W10 in about 10 sec firefox too fast to time
vs the older HD taking 1:30 and FF about 45 sec

if you got a M.2 slot it is worth geting the m.2SSD

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It's worth it. Just make sure you get at least 128 GB because windows and apps will devour it. Oh, and disconnect any other drives before installing windows on the m.2 drive. Otherwise you'll end up with your boot information on the old drive.
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The worst SSD is several orders of magnitude better than the best HDD.

No comparison. I upgraded my Mac recently to a 2TB SSD and I think I’ve extended its lifespan by at least five years.
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When I built my computer I am typing this on, it has two M.2 slots so I put a 2TB M.2 on each one. One is for the boot and the other drive is only for "work" files which in my business can get enormous. I also put in a 14.5 TB RAID5 and it is slug slow compared to the M.2 drives. With all the fans it is a huge and very heavy tower.
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Ssd are great when they are new. Ssd fundamentally age with writes. Once there have been too many writes they stop writing properly. Bunch of clever software and hardware to track the age of various segments on the ssd, theres backup segments that get automatically swapped in when pieces go bad. Also the writes are rotated across the disk in an attempt to age everything at the same rate. If you are doing lots of writes a 970 ssd might last three years? They start getting slow.

The thing you should do with ssd to make your life better:get a bigger ssd than you expect to need. Never fill it up, when you do that you're preventing the hardware from keeping itself healthy and you'll wear the 'free' sectors quickly. I try to keep mine below 40-50%.

I've now got two 970 2tb ssd in my laptop, is most excellent, combined with lots of ram my jobs often never go to disk and cpu is saturated. But those new units are replacement for original set of samsungs that became very slow and then started giving write errors. Original boot disk was too small and only lasted 18 months
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get at least 250 .. 128 is peanuts these days

hell, get at least 512.
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Ssd are great when they are new. Ssd fundamentally age with writes. Once there have been too many writes they stop writing properly. Bunch of clever software and hardware to track the age of various segments on the ssd, theres backup segments that get automatically swapped in when pieces go bad. Also the writes are rotated across the disk in an attempt to age everything at the same rate. If you are doing lots of writes a 970 ssd might last three years? They start getting slow.

The thing you should do with ssd to make your life better:get a bigger ssd than you expect to need. Never fill it up, when you do that you're preventing the hardware from keeping itself healthy and you'll wear the 'free' sectors quickly. I try to keep mine below 40-50%.

I've now got two 970 2tb ssd in my laptop, is most excellent, combined with lots of ram my jobs often never go to disk and cpu is saturated. But those new units are replacement for original set of samsungs that became very slow and then started giving write errors. Original boot disk was too small and only lasted 18 months

never noticed any of that..I simply put em in span mode and they combine to exceed controller performance.. so i never notice individual disk degradation

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