Masks

[island911]

Originally Posted by masraum

People that react with "you can't tell me what to do" remind me of children, teen age children that think they know everything and won't listen to adults just because.

And even worse are the people who say bahahaha bahahaha bahahaha as grown-ass adults who can not think for themselves.

Furthermore, when someone makes a solid counter-point to the State decree, the sheople can't refute it and turn to non-sequitur ad hominems; like frustrated little lambs.

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by island911

sheople c .

[john70t]

(when science doesn't support an alternative agenda, fall back to emotion)

[A930Rocket]

I went to Lowe’s today and was amazed at how many people were wearing masks. I was definitely in the minority and got me rethinking my position.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by A930Rocket

I went to Lowe’s today and was amazed at how many people were wearing masks. I was definitely in the minority and got me rethinking my position.

Friends have been posting on FB how they see all kinds of people not wearing masks anywhere. Of course they all live in states that have increased cases and increased deaths.

Everyone here in the Boston area, and I mean everyone, wears masks everywhere. And stores won't let you in if you don't have one. We got hit hard early on and I have to say our Governor Charlie Baker did an absolutely top shelf job in managing the crisis. Strong leadership saved us, really proud of our state.

That said, this weekend is going to be a huge test for the citizens of Mass in relation to Cape Cod beaches. I think we're going to see a small spike in the next few weeks.

Massachusetts reports zero new covid-related deaths while infections soar in South and West

[CurtEgerer]

My daughter is selling Kate Spade masks to the well-dressed sheeple on eBay for $30/each and making a killing. Capitalism at its finest.

[Seahawk]

[Shaun @ Tru6]

^^^ That is perfect!

[LEAKYSEALS951]

Originally Posted by island911

He makes a fair point about masks and face-fiddlers. But wouldn't putting Tabasco sauce in your Purell also do the trick?

One of my uncles lives in texas, hates the masks, and loves chili cookoffs. He even judges them sometimes. No purell necessary! He will love this!

[stormin48061]

in case you didn't see this article... sad case of when you make misleading statements thinking that there is no harm or what I call practicing medicine without a license. I'm surprised the parents didn't try disinfectant. It's realy baby... and innocent lives are being lost because ppl still are rallying against it. so sad.

Florida teen dies of COVID-19 after maskless church party, taking Trump-touted drugs

Josh K. Elliott


© Davis Family/GoFundMe Carsyn Leigh Davis, 17, is shown in this handout photo from her family.
A Florida teenager who died of complications from COVID-19 attended a large church party without a mask just a few weeks earlier, then took unproven drugs touted by U.S. President Donald Trump before her parents brought her to a hospital, according to a newly-released medical examiner's report.
Carsyn Leigh Davis, 17, died on June 23 after a lifetime of battling various medical challenges, including cancer and a rare autoimmune disorder that contributed to her death, according to the Miami-Dade County medical examiner's report. The girl was the youngest person to die of the coronavirus in her county at the time, and her death triggered an outpouring of sympathy and prayers for her family.
"We are incredibly saddened by her passing at this young age, but are comforted that she is pain free," her mother, Carole Brunton Davis, said on a statement to the Fort Myers News-Press last mon
Now, new details released by a former state data scientist have triggered a flurry of accusations against Davis' mother and her church for the way they handled the girl's last days.
The medically vulnerable teenager attended a youth church party with at least 100 attendees on June 10, according to the medical examiner's report.
"She did not wear a mask," the medical examiner wrote. "Social distancing was not followed."
Davis' parents gave her azithromycin, an unproven drug touted by Trump, for five days after the event as a preventative measure against the novel coronavirus, the medical examiner wrote.
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Davis fell ill on June 13 but her parents thought it was just a sinus infection, according to the report. Her parents became more alarmed when she looked "grey" on June 19, so they gave her an oxygen tank and a dose of hydroxychloroquine, another unproven drug that Trump pushed for many months. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration revoked authorization for the drug four days earlier, amid growing evidence that it was ineffective for COVID-19.
Davis' family brought her to the hospital later that day and she tested positive for COVID-19, according to the medical examiner. Her blood oxygen levels were falling but the family "declined intubation," according to the report.
The girl was ultimately intubated on June 22 and she died on June 23, two days after her birthday.
Outcry over the girl's death erupted on Sunday after Rebekah Jones, who runs the website Florida COVID Victims, released the medical examiner's report in a blistering write-up of the case. She also shared several Facebook screenshots that purported to show Davis' mother, Carole Brunton Davis, pushing various anti-science, conspiracy theory-driven medical views, including a no-mask website and a defence of the president's advice on disinfectant.
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One alleged post from Brunton Davis appears to show her complaining that doctors wouldn't give the girl more hydroxychloroquine. Jones also alleges that Brunton Davis followed several conspiracy theory communities, including anti-vaxxers and QAnon.
"I am saddened for this girl and the loss of life," Jones wrote. "I am so angered by the dangers of anti-science conspiracy theories and the people those altered mindsets put in harm's way."
Jones also described the party at First Youth Church in Fort Myers, Fla., as a "COVID party," and claimed in her write-up that the girl was "intentionally" exposed to the virus.
The First Assembly of God Church, which also runs the youth church, rejected Jones’ allegations in a statement on Tuesday.
The church denied hosting “COVID-19 parties,” and said that it is “following all of the health protections and protocols recommended by the state and local government with regard to holding its church services.” The church also said that it never encouraged behaviour to expose its congregation to the virus.
The First Youth Church Facebook appears to have been taken offline, although posts about a June 10 "Release Party" can still be found in the Google cache and on a secondary website that lists religious events. The posts do not explicitly mention the coronavirus or COVID-19.
Davis was at the church on June 10 for a youth event with about 140 teenagers, an unnamed spokesperson told WINK News on Monday.
Precautions were in place during the event, Pastor David Thomas told NBC2 in a separate interview. He added that the church wasn't policing social distancing, and if the kids ignored it, that was their decision.
Videos on the adult church's Facebook page show congregants singing on stage and in the crowd without masks. Most of them appear to be standing or sitting about six feet apart.
Florida has set new records for coronavirus cases in recent days, even as the state's Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis has sought to calm concerns and restart the economy. DeSantis has allowed various counties to decide their own policies on preventive measures such as wearing masks in public.
"There's no need to be really fearful about it," DeSantis said on Monday. He added that the state's death rate is less than two per cent because the average age of those infected is now 21.
Florida reported more than 6,300 new cases of COVID-19 on Monday, following a record-setting number of more than 11,000 on Saturday and 10,000 on Sunday.
Jones was fired by the state government in May over a dispute about reporting the state's case numbers. Jones said publicly that she had been pushed to paint a rosier picture of the pandemic on the state's website.
Read more: Florida under scrutiny for coronavirus data reporting website after designer fired
Jones has been sharing information about the coronavirus and its victims in Florida since she was fired.
The details she released about Davis' death sparked intense backlash on social media. A Facebook page dedicated to the girl's memory appears to have been removed, and Brunton Davis' Facebook page is also offline.
Jones' Twitter thread has been liked and shared more than 1,000 times, respectively, and hundreds have responded with criticisms of Brunton Davis.
She has not responded to multiple requests for comment.
Carsyn Davis "fought health challenges from the age of 2, including cancer and a very rare autoimmune disorder," her mother said in a statement posted to a GoFundMe memorial page. Brunton Davis says the girl was an avid varsity bowler and photographer who also volunteered for the Special Olympics and played an active role in her church.
"She endured years of treatment, doctor visits, specialists and the effects of those treatments. She lost her dad at the age of 10," Brunton Davis wrote. "Yet she survived it all."
Read more: ‘The devil’s laws’: Florida Christians fight mask rule at wild meeting
Brunton Davis added that her daughter remained strong throughout her battle with COVID-19.
"She never once shed a tear, complained or expressed fear."
Jones also mourned the girl's passing in her post.
"Every death on this website is heartbreaking. Every minute lost in someone's life is a tragedy," she wrote. "But this one will stick with me long after this virus has torn through our communities.
"Rest in peace, Carsyn."

[pmax]

Originally Posted by A930Rocket

I went to Lowe’s today and was amazed at how many people were wearing masks. I was definitely in the minority and got me rethinking my position.

Home improvement stores are packed for sure.

Feel sorry for the old retirees working there shouting thru the paper "masks" with the customers without social distancing.

... hope they are surviving thru this but yeah, masks, masks, masks.

[dafischer]

Note to self: Do not put on mask shortly after eating a pepperoni and minced garlic pizza. wooof.

[island911]

Originally Posted by stormin48061

in case you didn't see this article... sad case of when you make misleading statements thinking that there is no harm or what I call practicing medicine without a license. I'm surprised the parents didn't try disinfectant. It's realy baby... and innocent lives are being lost because ppl still are rallying against it. so sad. ...

Wow. I didn't know that rallying against it was a transmission vector.

Ppl who wear mask are getting it. Do we blame the fact that they are wearing masks?

ppl who stay completely shut in have gotten it, Do we blame the fact that they are shut in for their Covid?

Yet ppl get all excited if they can find someone who is just trying to live life, and they get it. THEN all of the sudden...

[Baz]

We don't have a problem in our area.

It's amazing how many stores have signs posted saying mask is required...but do not have any available to those who need one, as they enter their premises.

To each their own - but those people trying to shame or lecture others on mask wearing are a bunch of clueless busy bodies, IMHO.

Not really too surprising, I guess.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

I have ordered everything imaginable for several months now (even the simplest fasteners from McMaster Carr, rather than going to my local Ace which has been packed and jumping since all this began), so have not needed to wear a mask in public, but had to go in a business yesterday and it is mandatory to wear them here, so I did, and must admit that I felt like a total douchebag for some reason (more so than usual!!!). Do people get used to this shiit?!?! Fuukin' a, I think it sucks biggly, even though I agree it is better to be safe than sorry.

[Arizona_928]

I wear a balaclava. Retailers want to play games, I will too.

[stormin48061]

I hope you don't catch it....

[pmax]

Originally Posted by stormin48061

I hope you don't catch it....

First, the masks.

Then this for your own good.

The contact tracing business for personal behavior, if this is setting a precedent for the next flu season, where do we go from here ?

https://www.berkeleyside.com/2020/07/08/uc-berkeley-has-47-new-covid-19-cases-mostly-from-week-of-frat-parties

“The majority of these new cases stem from a series of recent parties connected to the CalGreek system, which included students both within the CalGreek community and others, and led to some secondary spread within households and within other smaller gatherings,” according to the statement from UC Berkeley University Health Services Medical Director Anna Harte and Assistant Vice Chancellor Guy Nicolette. “Generally, these infections are directly related to social events where students have not followed basic safety measures such as physical distancing, wearing face coverings, limiting event size, and gathering outside.”

Berkeley Public Health and University Health Services have now launched contact tracing investigations in line with normal procedures, according to Wednesday’s statement, “reaching those individuals who had close contact with the students who tested positive, advising regarding quarantine requirements, and encouraging and arranging testing.”

[Crowbob]

Originally Posted by cabmando

I'm taking my sanitizer internally this weekend! I figure Wild Turkey 101 and the heat sweating it out of me should add another layer of protection!

I’m gonna inhale some blue Christmas lights.

[NY65912]

Look, NYS and NYC were in a really bad place in the spring. We turned it around and now have the lowest numbers. Following all the guidelines worked in one of the most densley populated cities.

Wearing masks work! Now, if all of the other states would take a lesson perhaps things would get better across the country.