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Superman 12-20-2020 10:17 AM

Ha! A high school classmate of mine was/is Swedish. He has a younger sister. We graduated and began lives away from our hometown. His sister was a little kid.

A few years later I ..... I will never forget this .... I am standing on his father's back yard deck having a beer while the grill was getting hot. Onto the deck steps his drop dead gorgeous sister, probably about 17 years old. She walks straight up to me and says "You have the most beautiful blue eyes." You know what I said? Nothing. I couldn't talk or even think.

Sooner or later 12-20-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 11149220)
Grown men filming this with a combined IQ of garlic bread.
This poor woman is just trying to work
I’m so sick of these self absorbed *******s.

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Where are the Swedes in that video?

GothingNC 12-20-2020 12:15 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-55347021

Shaun @ Tru6 12-20-2020 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 11149434)
Where are the Swedes in that video?

Denny's is famous for their Swedish pancakes

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Sooner or later 12-20-2020 12:30 PM

Sweden requiring masks on public transportation. :)
Alcohol sales cut off at 8 pm
Remote learning for kids above 15 (high school)
No more than 4 at a restaurant table.

RWebb 12-20-2020 12:31 PM

are the tables in a closed room with other tables??

Sooner or later 12-20-2020 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 11149483)
are the tables in a closed room with other tables??

Yes. They have been slowly reduced seating capacity.

Captain Ahab Jr 12-20-2020 04:02 PM

UK government has just cancelled Christmas for most of the country and a few of our European neighbors have barred us from visiting

The reason appears to be because a new more contagious strain of COVID is being detected and spreading quickly

My neighbors in their mid-80's receive their 1st vaccination this week so there is a glimmer of sunshine over the 2020 horizon

RWebb 12-20-2020 04:15 PM

I saw that on the news. Good Luck!

wdfifteen 12-20-2020 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 11149220)
Grown men filming this with a combined IQ of garlic bread.
This poor woman is just trying to work
I’m so sick of these self absorbed *******s.

Nothing to do with Sweden but I agree, this self absorbed jackass is free to eat at home - his house, his rules. Let's see him film that for youtube. The commenters don't seem to have a lot of sympathy for the moron who walked in recording this, thinking he was being clever.

Captain Ahab Jr 12-20-2020 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 11149724)
I saw that on the news. Good Luck!

Thanks! Sad to say for sure it's coming your way too :(

Hoping the various vaccines starting to be given out have the affect of lowering the numbers so health services are not swamped again

Sooner or later 12-21-2020 05:45 AM

https://www.thelocal.se/20201216/sto...l-planned-care

Dec 16

The two major Swedish regions of Stockholm and Skåne have both been forced to postpone non-emergency care as the healthcare sector works hard to cope with a surge in coronavirus cases

sugarwood 12-22-2020 07:17 AM

Why don't people understand that they are a private company? If you don't like their policy, don't shop there.
understanding the difference between public access and public property.
This isn't a sidewalk or city hall. It's a private business with public access. .

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Sooner or later 12-22-2020 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 11151601)
Why don't people understand that they are a private company? If you don't like their policy, don't shop there.
understanding the difference between public access and public property.
This isn't a sidewalk or city hall. It's a private business with public access. .

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I liked the "4 Guys Jump A Walmart Employee... Security And His Doggie Couldn't Stop The Fight!" video better.

pksystems 12-22-2020 08:56 AM

Seems to me that all data says Sweden is no better, and definitely no worse then anywhere else on earth, except they didn't cripple their economy.

And now the media is claiming the vaccine may only last 12 months, and if the virus mutates and is no longer effective, they can adjust it in as little as 3 months.

So just to confirm, the sheeple will be calling for lockdowns for the rest of eternity as the never ending inoculations are being given?

rsrguy 12-22-2020 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pksystems (Post 11151718)
Seems to me that all data says Sweden is no better, and definitely no worse then anywhere else on earth, except they didn't cripple their economy.

And now the media is claiming the vaccine may only last 12 months, and if the virus mutates and is no longer effective, they can adjust it in as little as 3 months.

So just to confirm, the sheeple will be calling for lockdowns for the rest of eternity as the never ending inoculations are being given?

Pretty much sums it up.... Now all they ask from us is to buy the guns back at a "reasonable price"
set by them...

island911 12-22-2020 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pksystems (Post 11151718)
Seems to me that all data says Sweden is no better, and definitely no worse then anywhere else on earth, except they didn't cripple their economy.

And now the media is claiming the vaccine may only last 12 months, and if the virus mutates and is no longer effective, they can adjust it in as little as 3 months.

So just to confirm, the sheeple will be calling for lockdowns for the rest of eternity as the never ending inoculations are being given?

yep. :-/

Living must stop until people stop dying.


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And don't forget to tune in tomorrow for another episode of As the Covid Whirled Churns.

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WHO will survive..

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RWebb 12-22-2020 03:54 PM

sic 'em, meme boy!

Sooner or later 12-22-2020 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pksystems (Post 11151718)
Seems to me that all data says Sweden is no better, and definitely no worse then anywhere else on earth, except they didn't cripple their economy.

And now the media is claiming the vaccine may only last 12 months, and if the virus mutates and is no longer effective, they can adjust it in as little as 3 months.

So just to confirm, the sheeple will be calling for lockdowns for the rest of eternity as the never ending inoculations are being given?

Didn't cripple their economy?


Sweden
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US
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group911@aol.co 12-22-2020 05:22 PM

Now that's a stretch. Fear much?
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsrguy (Post 11151723)
Pretty much sums it up.... Now all they ask from us is to buy the guns back at a "reasonable price"
set by them...


sugarwood 12-23-2020 05:42 PM

Come on guys, he has a medical condition and can’t wear a mask.

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pmax 12-23-2020 08:45 PM

What a fun thread this is.

sugarwood 12-27-2020 07:23 AM

Anti-masker freaks out at CVS in Los Angeles,
where 1 person is dying every 10 minutes of COVID

“I’m entitled to service”

That’s never been true.

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Part 2 is even better
https://twitter.com/i/status/1343013558179647488

pavulon 12-27-2020 07:27 AM

^^ Every Karen everywhere.

sugarwood 12-28-2020 09:27 AM

A 12-month timeline of Tucker Carlson’s unhinged COVID-19 coverage

This is so delicious. Transcripts and video evidence. It is irrelevant to his viewers but a stark reminder for the rest of us of what the media can get away with.

Yep. Video proof. Complete and absolute evidence of the lies, misinformation and outright dangerous statements made to people and those who believed it and spread these lies.

Good grief, what an idiot.

https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/12-month-timeline-tucker-carlsons-unhinged-covid-19-coverage

speeder 12-28-2020 09:37 AM

Why are anti-maskers always psychotic? :confused:

sugarwood 12-30-2020 03:30 PM

It says on their website " we connect people with God".
But they mean it literally.

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sugarwood 01-01-2021 08:46 AM

Sure talks at a neck breaking speed with no stopping for having such crippling asthma that is worse than the face masked officer.

When the guy said he wasn't obligated to wear a mask because he has asthma the cop should have just said under-what-section-under-what-section-under-what-section? It drives me crazy that these Karens demand that everyone else listen to their BS but won't let anyone else finish a sentence.

These people are the worst kind. BAD asthma. Like take a preventer twice a day kind of asthma and can still wear a mask with no issues. Also asthmatics are so much more high risk with Covid so don’t be an idiot, wear a mask for your own safety and everyone else’s!

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island911 01-01-2021 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11157910)
Why are anti-maskers always psychotic? :confused:

LOL.

You got that backwards there speedy.

The psychosis is in telling yourself that a mask is our savior.

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Sooner or later 01-01-2021 10:39 AM

Even Sweden is now using masks on public transportation.

island911 01-01-2021 10:42 AM

and yet the virus still spreads.

now what?

Sooner or later 01-01-2021 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11162773)
and yet the virus still spreads.

now what?

Of course it spreads. No one has said masks or social distancing are 100% effective. They are used to SLOW the spread and demand on the medical system.

The vaccines are not 100% effective yet they will be the best method to get the economy back open.

Sooner or later 01-01-2021 10:52 AM

It also appears to me the both new cases and deaths have peaked in the US.

island911 01-01-2021 10:53 AM

FWIW, from Worldometer today ( https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries )

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Sweden is ranked 28th in most deaths per population.

Heavy mask & lockdown countries have more deaths; France #17, USA #14 ...

Sooner or later 01-01-2021 11:02 AM

Sweden has a total population of 10 million.

They have also gone to 100% virtual schooling for high school and above. They have also stopped alcohol sales after 8 pm. They have also stopped more than 4 dining at on table in a restaurant. They have also limited outdoor gathering to a maximum of 8. They have also banned non essential travel into Sweden from outside the EU.

Why?

Fear of having the medical system being overwhelmed.

island911 01-01-2021 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 11162777)
Of course it spreads. No one has said masks or social distancing are 100% effective. They are used to SLOW the spread and demand on the medical system.

The vaccines are not 100% effective yet they will be the best method to get the economy back open.

You have a few false premises there.

1) there is no evidence that masks -I mean the kind commonly worn- that those SLOW the spread. They may in fact increase the spread as people feel that they have placed sufficient protection on their face to get much closer to others who may be shedding.

2) The demand on the medical system is at a modern time low. Hospitals always strive to be near capacity - just as the owner of an apartment building would. YET people have been avoiding hospitals because of these stories of "at capacity" warnings. ("it's ok, my cancer screening can wait.")

3) " the best method to get the economy back open" That's a big one. A snuck (false) premise, that the decision to keep Walmart open and bars closed can only be changed IF we have a vaccine. This whopper of a lie infers that people have no immunity on their own. And that "Sweden did it wrong". Clearly they did not.

Sooner or later 01-01-2021 11:08 AM

If you want to compare nations (which is foolish to begin with) how are neighbors Norway and Finland doing compared to Sweden?

island911 01-01-2021 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 11162792)
Sweden has a total population of 10 million.

They have also gone to 100% virtual schooling for high school and above. They have also stopped alcohol sales after 8 pm. They have also stopped more than 4 dining at on table in a restaurant. They have also limited outdoor gathering to a maximum of 8. They have also banned non essential travel into Sweden from outside the EU.

Why?

Fear of having the medical system being overwhelmed.

Now you are making a bunch of foolish is-ought arguments. -- If Sweden is now doing all of those things it is because they ought to be doing all of those thing.

Throwing darts in a dark room, as none of those things makes this virus go away.

island911 01-01-2021 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 11162798)
If you want to compare nations (which is foolish to begin with) how are neighbors Norway and Finland doing compared to Sweden?

if it is foolish to begin with then why are you ?

ckelly78z 01-01-2021 11:13 AM

I can understand social distancing, and actually prefer it as my normal. I'm never going to wear a mask over my nose, but wear one to keep life's Karen's, and managers from verbally assaulting me for not properly virtue signaling (correctly).

I have used hand sanitizer only when someone forcibly pumped it into my palm at a business (maybe twice this year), but somehow remain healthy despite my co-morbidities.

I take vitamin D daily, and avoid most stores, but still do many things outside around my farm, and work full time.


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